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On a $4500 build which one should I opt for?
Iray, Vray, Rhino and Auto CAD

Suggested config:

Intel - Xeon E5-2680 V3 2.5GHz 12-Core $1450
Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO $20
Asus - Rampage V Edition 10 EATX LGA2011-3 $490
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 $350
Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $200
PNY - Quadro P4000 8GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) $1560
Rosewill - RISE Glow ATX Full Tower Case $80
EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $180
$4300

Thanks a ton
 
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justin.m.beauvais
In that case, the i9 with the Quadro P5000 would be the minimum fuss, maximum performance way to go. Either of the boards I mentioned would work great in that build. You will probably want to change your CPU cooler to something beefier though. The Hyper 212 is a good cooler, but you are getting into AIO water cooler territory with an i9. That said, the superior clock speeds of the i9 will help a lot in your kinds of workloads. Having lots of cores and threads is nice, but clocks matter with photo rendering, as such I'd recomend the i9 7900X (10c/20t @ 3.3GHz) or the i9 7940x (14c/28t @ 3.1HGz) as both have the high clock speeds and plenty of cores and threads. Quadros are simply the best for rendering, and the 970 EVO is good fast...
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I agree with RobCrezz, go i9 if you don't need ECC memory, which you don't have in your build so going with the Xeon would be a complete waste of money.

As for the "to SLI, or not to SLI" that is the question. So my question to you, that you need to ask yourself, is if your applications can take advantage of SLI. If they can, then the 2 P4000s would be better for some workloads... however, if you need a ton of VRAM, SLI doesn't deal with VRAM in an additive way. You only get the 8 GB even with two cards with 8 GB of VRAM. In cases where SLI doesn't work and you need more VRAM, the P5000 is the choice.

Generally speaking, SLI is more trouble than it is worth. You might get it running fine and it work well, if you do, then count yourself lucky. If it doesn't work, you'll waste a bunch of time trying to get it to work, when with the single GPU you could just be working. So, my suggestion is just go with the P5000.
 
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Well, any of the x299 boards will work and most are loaded with features, but for a workstation you probably don't need the overly gamer feature set of most. I'd look into the MSI X299 Raider or the Gigabyte X299 UD4. Both are lighter on the gamer-ness and look to have good feature sets.
 
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Let me warn you Justin, if you keep answering I'll keep asking :p
What are the MB features that I need to look for for a workstation? no gaming at all
Thanks again
 
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All depends if the applications you use require a Quadro or not. Geforces and Quadros are practically identical in hardware, main differences are in the drivers/software as to what it allows the card to do.

There are some things that a quadro will do 10x faster due to the drivers/software and thats what your paying for, its just knowing if you actually need a quadro or not.
 
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Mostly for a workstation you are going to want plenty of RAM expandability, storage options (a couple M.2 slots, several SATA ports, RAID capability), fast onboard networking, plenty of expansion slots (PCI-E, USB3 ports), and whatever you might need specific to your work. I'm not sure what you will be using it for, but really low on your list should be RGB anything.

Now, what the i9/X299 platform won't give you is ECC memory. ECC memory is automatic error correcting RAM that will help with system stability. Normally this is a must have in servers and workstations that have critical work on them. For most applications it isn't necessary.

What would you be using this system for? I've gone over most of what you should be looking for, but knowing would help me tailor the answer a little better.
 
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On a 10-13 h/day work load:
These two are my priorities, mostly used to create photorealistic renderings
(both benefit from Quadro
http://www.nvidia.com/object/vca-for-iray.html )
Vray 20%
Iray 40%

These two for conceptual design and detailing
Rhino & CAD 40%
Revit is mostly Swiss as I've never faced any issues yet :)

Rendering takes most of the time; the reason I'm willing to pay $4300 on the PC and $500-700 on a display
 
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Hi again :)

Cad & Rhino work smoothly on a decent PC; my main concern is the rendering, need something that does the photorealistic rendering as fast as possible with minimum fuss on a $4300-4500 budget
 
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In that case, the i9 with the Quadro P5000 would be the minimum fuss, maximum performance way to go. Either of the boards I mentioned would work great in that build. You will probably want to change your CPU cooler to something beefier though. The Hyper 212 is a good cooler, but you are getting into AIO water cooler territory with an i9. That said, the superior clock speeds of the i9 will help a lot in your kinds of workloads. Having lots of cores and threads is nice, but clocks matter with photo rendering, as such I'd recomend the i9 7900X (10c/20t @ 3.3GHz) or the i9 7940x (14c/28t @ 3.1HGz) as both have the high clock speeds and plenty of cores and threads. Quadros are simply the best for rendering, and the 970 EVO is good fast storage.

So here is the link to the system I'd go with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LGQ2xG
 
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I kept your case too, but yeah, upgrade that case for sure. It was painful to put it in that thing. It is an ok case for 5 years ago, but nowadays there are WAY better cases, as you seem to have found.

Also, you can't REALLY argue with the 970 Evo. It is a good SSD. Although the Crucial MX500 does cost less and perform about the same.

You are welcome. Glad to help.
 
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The Crucial MX500 is not even close to the performance of the 970 evo!

The MX500 is a SATA SSD, the 970 evo is a NVMe SSD.

http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-970-Evo-NVMe-PCIe-M2-250GB-vs-Crucial-MX500-250GB/m494033vs3951
 
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