som card doen't always work in PCIe X16 [SOLVED]

davy rockstar

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hi guys, this very strange thing hapends to my rig
some GPU's are not recogniced by the PCIe x16, until now i have already tested:
saphire 270x worked fine
saphire 280x toxic worked fine (only in UEFI mode i guess, when i pressed the BIOS button i didnt worked)
Gigabyte 270x didn't worked, in this case i didnt have the oportunity to test it in the PCIe X4, dont remember if the MOBO posted or not but all fans worked
PNY XLR8 GTX 770 worked flowlessly
and now i'm testing a NVIDIA quadro 600 and it didnt work in the x16 (all fans and also post from MOBO to windows), but i figured out that it works fine in the X4 slot which is native 2.0 and not 3.0 like the X16

testing in the X4, the computer suppse to turn on, then restarts before posting and then the computer will work with the new GPU installed. but when i try the X16 this didn't happend it just boots normally with no video from the new installed GPU

right now i got this quadro card for free just to wait for the new nvidia generation or buy a used card until the new generation comes...

but this problem is freaking me out what if i buy a new GPU and does not work?, whats wrong or what value in bios shuld i test??

this is very weird, i tried with UEFI, and LEGACY bios and the X16 just dont gives me video and windows 7 or 10 dont recognize the new device except if i plug the card in the X4... i also try to change to PCIe gen2, and gen1, and also PCI oprom legacy and UEFI (this card only works with UEFI oprom)

any clues??

specs:

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H77m-D3H with the newest bios
CPU: intel core i7 3770 OC 4.1GHz the fastest it can go
RAM: 8GB 1866 kingston hyperX fury
some HDD's and SSd's
PSU: corsair GS700, 700W
 

atomicWAR

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Do not panic. Have you run ddu yet? If not do that now. link below

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Reinstall your drivers. Run DDU and driver install anytime you switch GPUs, even when made by same the manufacturer (both AMDs for example). Believe it or not even two identical GPUs, i run SLI and have switched them/ran one or the other during OC sessions, being swapped has caused me an issue before where I needed DDU. If that doesn't work try a fresh install of your OS. All of that doesn't work...then you can panic.
 

davy rockstar

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thanks a lot Atomic.... as i said, not even the bios recognized the GPU.....
long ago a did some overclocking in memory, but it ran unestable in the last BIOS update.... i get back the values to the default 1866Hz but maybe i left some values behind...

so i loaded the default "optimiced settings" and i found that now i have video output from the X16!!
then i start to overclock CPU and stablish the other settings one by one and everything works as spected now... but i dont really know what was the real issue as i didn't find any strange value (but the IGPU memory it changed from 1024 to 64MB)

sorry for my bad orthography :p

PD: now finally i can experience the 144 refresh rate... damn i'm so happy :D
 

atomicWAR

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I saw that on the bios but since uefi seemed to see the GPU(s) so the DDU argument seems like it would still stand had you not fixed it. Even if both UEFI and bios showed the card as not there it still may be worth a shot...I had a few different motherbaords that had issuse with multi gpu/PCIe card but the best example was an old 780i motherboard back in the day (when bios was all there was). As stated i run dual GPU or better and have since the GTX 6 series introduced it since the death of 3dfx Voodoo's dual GPU setup also named SLI from the 90s. Point being a few times I had issues with that board and multi GPU. Every year or so it would stop recognizing the second GPU. I'd check bios and like you go nothing. Assumed my PSU, board, slot or all of the above was bad. On this particular board I was running Tri SLI. Only the top slot would see a card in bios. Now I could reset bios and the cards would reappear in bios until windows loaded. At which point two of the three cards disappeared. Now when I reset bios and immediately reinstalled windows as it booted the first time....boom everything showed up and worked like it should. Sadly this was before I knew of DDU. Around the third time this happened I stumbled upon DDU. Man it has saved me more times then I can count. It did the same fix with a 1/1000th the effort. Now I totally get in theory DDU should not have zero affect on bios/UEFI recognizing a card is connected (like seriously it really shouldn't)...but in my experience in some cases DDU still fixes things even when bios/uefi shows nothing is installed or is malfunctioning. So It is still worth a shot next time something like this happens. Worst case scenario you waste 10 minutes.

Well I hope some of that has use for you in the future. I am glad it is working now though kudos!
 

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