Gigabit Router WITHOUT costly wireless solution.

StupidComputers · Jun 19, 2018

I need a Router with true Gigabit Ethernet and I don't care about wireless.

Every product I can find with at least a full 1000Mbps ethernet connection comes bundled with powerful wireless which increases the price, or is strictly wired, but even more expensive. The wireless routers I've been looking at (1700/1900) all seem to be weak in one way or another and all I have to work with are customer reviews.

I want to assume there are a few products out there that might suit my needs, but all my searching turns up nothing. I'm hoping that here I might find a solution for the lowest cost option for acceptable performance (900Mbps wired, Secure, at least 24hrs stable uptime- obviously 24 months is more ideal lol), stable DD-WRT is a plus but not 100% necessary.

Thanks so much.

** Ubiquiti 3 lite seems like the reluctant choice as of this current edit

SkyNetRising · Jun 20, 2018

900Mbps wired? Did you mean wan to lan throughput?

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/bar/179-wan-to-lan-tcp/35

StupidComputers · Jun 20, 2018

SkyNetRising :

Ya I was looking at the d-link 878 and the Ubiquiti lite, but both seem to have problems, and were already more than I wanted to spend - I thought a lower ASUS model, which is more expensive than the two I mentioned might work, but the asus models on the list are superior the AC1900, which leads me to believe that it's throughput is inferior..

I'm trying to find another (possibly only mythical) solution

** actually there are a couple wireless free solutions on that list I'm going to research, thanks!

***both the solutions that caught my eye need to be shipped from korea and there are no owner reviews... the search continues...

ko888 · Jun 20, 2018

The #1 rated wired router in that list is the MikroTik RB750Gr3. I remember NCIX, before they went into receivership, was selling this exact model for around $60 Canadian during some of their weekly sales I regret not buying one when I had the chance.

Amazon.ca has a marketplace seller based in Ohio that charges a ridiculous amount for shipping:

https://www.amazon.ca/Mikrotik-RB750Gr3-5-port-Ethernet-Gigabit/dp/B01MSUMVUB

StupidComputers · Jun 20, 2018

ko888 :

I was trying to look at ncix today, the icon in the tab showed up but that's about it. Newegg has it over double that price, but hey free shipping.. The Ubiquiti is on sale right now for $120, seems to be the leader.. I guess.. I'm reading on newegg that it uses crap flash memory so I imagine you'd have to add the price of RMA shipping to that.

bill001g · Jun 20, 2018

You have to be very careful about using customer reviews as a basis. A huge number of customers are idiots. I have seen people rate routers badly because they could not hook it to their DSL connection.....but the router never said it had a DSL modem built in.

On routers that contain wifi you might as well ignore comments about how well or bad they work. The house has much more effect than difference in routers. Someone living in a high density apartment is going to get very different performance than someone living in the country in a large open house.

I would use tables like those provided in the previous link from smallnetbuilders before customer reviews. They at least admit the problems with their testing methods and why you can not compare routers tested using different testing methods they have used over the years.

Also when you need a router that can really run gigabit you are going to have to give up a lot of feature. To get this high speed they offloaded the NAT function to the switch chip. Feature related to firewalls and even simple traffic monitoring no longer work because the traffic bypasses the CPU. If you try to use these feature the traffic flows via the cpu again and you get in the 250mbps or so speed on most routers.

I am not 100% sure why but most third party firmware does not support the nat offload. It maybe the chipset vendor is not releasing the public domain drivers with the feature. I know asus merlin supports it but last time I looked dd-wrt does not. It really doesn't matter most the advanced functions that many people want do not function unless you disable the hardware nat acceleration.

ko888 · Jun 20, 2018

StupidComputers :

NCIX filed for bankruptcy back on December 1, 2017.

I see that MikroTik is replacing the RB750Gr3 with the new RB760iGS.

https://www.netwire.ca/ethernet-routers/129-hex-s.html
or
https://solimedia.net/oldshop/mikrotik-routers/552-hex-s.html

StupidComputers · Jun 20, 2018

bill001g :

The only parts i paid attention to were;
the lan speed, some routers marked gigabit were apparently giving more than a couple people half that speed;
and things like how the ubiquiti 3 lite had crappy flash memory and it would fail within the first year.

The Asus router i was looking at (ac1900) didn't even make that list, and it's not their cheapest "gigabit" router.

I really don't care about the frills, I'm going to turn off wifi. Offloading seems often necessary, but all I need this router for is a security layer for a single pc, so all the pricey functions are likely going to be turned off.

It's maddening that every router HAS to come with wifi, except the cheap Ubiquiti, and I'm going to have to pony up RMA shipping and/or use a flash memory substitution hack after the first year. I think i need a different thread with different wording, I just didn't want people telling me what kind of security they think I don't need.

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