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Looking for some feedback on the following proposed build. Case will be a re-used Antec P183. Not discussing power supply here.

Link to shopping cart (in euros as i'm building in germany)
https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/1RJ9NC3KMMAVP

MOBO: MSI X370 or MSI X470 because I want some future proofing and lots of SATA ports and headers, don't care about LEDs or crossfire. Open to other mobos maybe 350 but don't want memory issues because of a cheaper mobo.
RAM: G.SKILL 8GBx2 DDR4 3200 MHz (went with fast ram based on online comments)
CPU: Ryzen 7 2600 (went with 65W for nice quiet build and seems like the 2600 won't bottleneck anything). Probably using default cooler until I get a retrofit kit for one of my old Noctuas or my Scythe Mugen but open to a cheap $40 cooler if one exist and is easily compatible.
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6GB (stuff gets expensive above this. would prefer AMD but the 580 uses too much power). Also really like the "fan off" feature below 60 degrees.
SSD: 500 GB WD Black Nvme (really enticed by the 3400 MB/s read)
Not shown: HDDs (have plenty of 3TB and 8TB and some other SATA SSDs that will store a few games). Case will be Antec P183.


Priorities:
1. Low Noise
2. Stability & 5 year no headaches
3. Responsive (no waiting)
4. 1080P gaming (mainly WoW)
5. Some video editing in future maybe (have used adobe suites before)
6. Minimal BIOS screwing around
7. Not planning to OC anything

Questions:
1. At what speed will this memory run by default and how much messing around to get it to run at 3200? I'm ok with going into BIOS and selecting an XMP mode but don't want to tweak settings and voltages.
2. Is the 500 GB Nvme pretty plug and play? Meaning, can I just assemble the works and then install windows from a USB stick to this drive? Will it show up as a normal disc? Otherwise I will stick to a regular SATA SSD as my main boot drive.

Any other feedback welcome.

Regards
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1. Ive seen G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200MHz run at 2933 at max but the Trident Z gets up to 3200MHz no problem with Ryzen. I would say just update to the latest BIOS to make sure you get any updates which made memory compatibility better, and then see how much you can get it to run at. Im pretty sure it will go to 2933MHz. The X470 boards also have improved memory compatibility, so its all up to luck. You should go with the G.Skill SniperX DDR4 series. They were the kits AMD provided to reviewers when they send out the 2nd gen Ryzen CPUs. The SniperX kit is rated to work at full speed with Ryzen 2nd gen.

2. Yes. The drive is plug and play, it will show up as a normal drive. You might need to allocate it (But thats the same with any drive)

I would like to add that AMD is releasing B450 boards later this year. So if you want to save some money, you might want to give them a look. But if you want to get your build ASAP, then nothing is wrong with the X470.
Also, the HDDs will make some noise, and as you are prioritizing silence and speed, I would get two SATA 500GB SSDs or two 250GB SATA SSDs and run them in RAID 0
 
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1. RAM is a BIT finicky with Ryzen, as you might already know. Before you even go looking into how that RAM runs, I would ensure that said RAM is supported by your motherboard of choice. You can find this detail either on the RAM page or on your motherboard's support page. Having DIMM's that are on the QVL will help run your RAM at stock speeds FAR easier.

2. Yup. Should be as easy as any other SSD installation.

Overall, looks like a really great build for 1080p gaming and rendering. Will be FAR more capable than an intel equivalent as far as editing/productivity is concerned.
 
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Thanks for the feedback so far. I've found the x470 MSI mobo page for compatibility.

CPU is fine, no brainer there

NVMe:https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO#support-hdd
Could not find the WDS512G2X0C , I could find the WDS512G1X0C-00ENX0 which is just the Gen 1 instead of the Gen 2 but doesn't give me the warm and fuzzy feeling and the gen 1 is much slower

RAM: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X470-GAMING-PRO#support-mem-14
Can't find the current F4-3200C16D-16GVR model on the list. Couldn't find any of the g-skill 8GBx2 on the list at decent speed. Anyone have 2 x 8GB (or 2 x 16gb) memory running at 3200 or similar that is available at amazon.de?

 
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The new Ryzen 2nd Gen is far less picky about RAM speeds. Is it still a good idea to buy the fastest RAM you can afford? Yes, but it wont give you the performance boost that you got with 1st gen Ryzen.

SSDs install and operate exactly the same as a HDD, so setup is the same.
 
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If you're really worried about compatibility of storage, the 960 Evo should work just fine with your board, as I'm currently using one in my X470 system. https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-MZ-V6E500BW-Interne-Solid-schwarz/dp/B01M20VBU7/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1529863720&sr=1-1&keywords=960+evo

You'd be paying a bit of a premium for it, but the FlareX should work just fine, and is CONFIRMED to run at 3200 with AMD. https://www.amazon.de/Gskill-F4-3200C14D-16GFX-Arbeitsspeicher-FlareX-schwarz/dp/B06XFT7DF9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1529864048&sr=8-1&keywords=F4-3200C14D-16GFX
 
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Thank you profoundnoah, i'm going to forego the WD Black in favor of Samsung Evo for the sake of compatibility.

The memory F4-3200C14D-16GFX you suggested is not on the compatibility list for that mobo.

What about this? F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW from this website?
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-G-Skill-Trident-Z-schwarz-weiss-DDR4-3466-DIMM-CL16-Dual-Kit_1117115.html

It shows in the compatibility of the MOBO list as "single" even though it's a dual kit. Would that mean this memory would not run in dual channel mode?

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They really don't make it easy. I just want some standard ram from amazon.de that is on that MOBO compatibility page but they aren't making it easy. If the RAM doesn't work at advertised speed and I contact the mobo vendor, then they are just going to blame the fact that it's not on the compatibility list.

Can anyone confirm if this chart is still accurate or have recent updates changed this? In other words, is there any point to buying a 8 GB x 2 kit faster than 2400 MHz (assuming a 4 slot ATX board) since dual rank maxes out at that frequency? Also, would it be faster to run in single rank at 2933 or dual ran at 2400?
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Anyone have a screenshot of memory configured dual rank running at 3200 (without custom BIOS modifications on memory timings or voltages) on an XMP setting?

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If anyone stumbles across this thread in the future, i'll just add a few key points.

1. G.Skill support team did manually confirm the X-Flare memory as being compatible even though it's not listed on the mobo compatibility chart.
2. X370 Mobo MAY NOT BOOT with a second gen ryzen CPU such as the 2600 unless the motherboard BIOS has been updated. Can't update BIOS without a boot. Can't boot without a BIOS. So unless you got a first gen Ryzen CPU layout around, it 'll mean a trip to the hardware store.

AMD does offer some kind of "rental CPU" u can get to boot, upgrade bios and then send back to AMD but most people who just spend hard earned money on a new system probably don't want to wait another 2 weeks for a boot CPU.

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