AMD RYZEN 7 2700X or INTEL CORE I7 8700K

theyeti87

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While the 8700K does have the single-core performance edge, saying it "kills" a 2700X is misleading. They're pretty close in terms of single-thread performance.
 


That's a 508 point gap. It's a pretty good sized gap. Though I still wouldn't put all of my faith into just a single benchmark score to show how much better 1 cpu is over another. Both CPU's have their advantages and disadvantages. For example the intel CPU is much better at gaming beyond 60 fps. The AMD CPU is better at streaming the game. There are reasons to pick one over the other. But if you game at 60hz then either one is fine for gaming. It simply won't make a difference.
 

spdragoo

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For strictly gaming, yes, the i7-8700K is the absolute best CPU out there. However, its lead over the 2700X is not as big as you would think. While a lot of the testing results & review text focuses on the overclocking results (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,5571.html), the actual testing result tables also include the stock results for both CPUs...& both the i7-8700K & 2700X have stock clocks of 3.7GHz. At stock, the best the i7-8700K can do is maybe 5% better results than the 2700X. In the productivity results, however, the 2700X even at stock was faster whenever multiple cores were used. That's going to be more important for you when it comes to the programming & recording/streaming side.

And there's the requirement for a CPU cooler with the i7-8700K (doesn't come with a stock cooler), when the 2700X does come with one (& is apparently even useful for light overclocking, should you want it). It's hard to do true price comparisons, since there are no B450 boards available yet for the 2700X (& using a B350 board would require a BIOS update with a prior Ryzen CPU). However, assuming PSU/RAM/storage & all other parts are equal, here's how a current price breakdown looks:
-- Core i7-8700K/MSI Z370 Tomahawk/CRYORIG H7 (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bz2VxY): $495 USD (note that you have to buy that cooler to even run the system)
-- R7 2700X/MSI X470 Gaming Plus/CRYORIG H7 (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckQTCb): $475 USD (in this case, you only need that cooler if you're serious about overclocking the CPU)
-- R7 2700X/MSI X470 Gaming Plus (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z7wvWD): $440 USD (again, unless you plan on major overclocking, you won't need a separate CPU cooler with the 2700X)

Basically, going with the 2700X saves you about 5% on the final price...which matches up with difference in gaming performance (but also giving you a more capable non-gaming platform). Ultimately, it's your call.
 

theyeti87

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When you claim one kills the other, that is a day and night difference. They're both great CPUs.
 


I claimed it for single thread performance. I find 23%+ significant. However, maybe "killed" was a little much.