Necessary to change Asus Strix Z370-H to Extreme 4

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Hi All,

Hope you all well. :) sorry I am quite new to overclocking :(

I was provided several advice to change my current motherboard to Asrock z370 extreme 4 with 12 power phrase in order to do a proper overclocking. All my past motherboards is Asus and it never fails .

Not sure should i change my motherboard to Asrock z370 extreme 4 ? ( i am planning to push the i78700k to 5ghz with less than 1.3v.

Below is my build

CPU: i78700k
Cooler: NH-D15
Memory Vengance Lpx 3000
Motherboard : Asus Strix Z370 H
Graphic card : Asus strix GTX 1080 8gb
Case: Fractal Design Define R6
Storage : 500GB Samsung 970 M.2 NVME
2TB Segate Firecuda 3.5 7200rpm
860 evo 500GB

Monitor: 144hz gaming

Power supply: seasonic SSR 650TR

Many thanks.
Koolrabbit
 
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That Strix will overclock just fine, probably better than fine. You MIGHT (and I emphasize MIGHT) get a better overclock on a board with more phases, but if you are "quite new to overclocking", you will NOT get to the point that having a 12-phase power will help you in any significant way.

Having more phases does help spread the heat load on those VRM components, but they are pretty darn robust and can handle quite a bit of heat. So unless you are throwing huge voltage at it (like liquid nitrogen levels), the heat generated will be well within acceptable parameters.

Dunlop0078

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5ghz with less than 1.3v? Where are you getting those numbers? I would say it's very unlikely an 8700k will hit 5ghz at less than 1.3v unless you got quite lucky in the silicon lottery. The quality of the silicon in your particular 8700k is going to play a bigger role than the motherboard VRM when trying for 5ghz 1.3v. The strix z370h certainly does not have the greatest VRM in the world but it should be able to hit 5ghz with very similar voltages as that asrock board. The asus VRM on that strix board would likely produce more heat than that asrock board but they should be similar in terms of overclocking regardless.
 

luckymatt42

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That Strix will overclock just fine, probably better than fine. You MIGHT (and I emphasize MIGHT) get a better overclock on a board with more phases, but if you are "quite new to overclocking", you will NOT get to the point that having a 12-phase power will help you in any significant way.

Having more phases does help spread the heat load on those VRM components, but they are pretty darn robust and can handle quite a bit of heat. So unless you are throwing huge voltage at it (like liquid nitrogen levels), the heat generated will be well within acceptable parameters.
 
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Thank you for the information luckymatt42 :) Wanna ask some stupid questions.

- Is it better to overclock after my warranty is finish for my motherboard ?
- What is the ideal ghz and voltage for a longer life span ? Also what's the limit to overheat the VRM components.
- overclocking only provide better result with tasks and application not gaming right ?
- does the power supply affect the overheating for VRM components?

Many thanks
Koolrabbit
 

luckymatt42

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I don't have complete answers, but I'll try to start you down the right path at least:

-Overclocking is always "at your own risk". However, those motherboards are specifically made for overclocking. Every vendor is different, but long story short overclocking will NOT void your warranty automatically. Now, if you're trying to shove 1.6 volts through your cpu with a stock fan...they might not cover that. So as long as you are within the bounds of reason for your overclock, you won't void your warranty. And if you're staying with a "sane" voltage on the cpu, your VRM will be fine (they have a MUCH higher heat threshold than your cpu does)

-As far as "ideal"...the only thing I can say here is that very high voltage will eventually kill your cpu. Voltage is what kills them, not speed or even necessarily heat. So look on other forums (your strix probably has it's own forum or subreddit) to see what voltages they are running. Watch videos (I like Gamers Nexus and Pauls Hardware). Be patient and learn all you can, do NOT depend on ONE source for info. I know you want to jump in and get started, but take the time and do the research. Your patience will be richly rewarded, I guarantee.

-Overclocking will most certainly provide gaming benefits. Some games are more "cpu- bound" than other games, so they will benefit more. NO, you're not going to double your FPS, but it certain cases you might get a 10-15% bump or more depending on the overclock.

-Power supply does not directly affect any heating, it's all about the voltage you set. The power supply just...supplies the power ;) Having said that, NEVER cheap out on a power supply. Good power supply means not only good efficiency and thermal management (of the power supply itself), but provides steady and "clean" power to all your components. It's just like tires for your car...if you're driving a Ferrari on bald crappy tires, you will not get the full performance of the car. If your power supply is crappy, you may not get the full performance of your rig. That may be an oversimplification, but I think you get my meaning.
 
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Thank for providing me the advices luckymatt42 :) I will take my time and do more research before jumping into overclocking . Btw Gamers Nexus and Pauls Hardware is very helpful . Many thanks :)
 

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Start a new thread with your specs and a detailed description of your problem and what you're trying to do, don't just hijack a solved thread.