Inaccurate GPU temps after waterblock install

jamiltsaleh

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I just installed an alphacool GPX pro 240mm AIO liquid cooler on my (rare-ish) zotac 1080 ti mini (Because it gets HOT on air). The temps in MSI AB (on air) used to be at least what *seemed* like accurate (around 30 at idle, 85 at load). After installing the block, the GPU reads at 18 degrees at idle, and 25 at load. My pc is in a pretty chilly basement, but ambient is 18 degrees so idling at 18 should be normal-ish. I found a laser thermometer and the backplate temps of the card were in the mid forties at load. That would mean that the GPU must be warmer, right? I also know from seeing full custom loops that 25 degrees on a watercooled 1080 ti is just too good to be true; the people that went custom usually got 45 degrees or so at load. This is an AIO, not an LN2 loop made by god himself.

Question: Why might MSI afterburner be showing me these weird temps? The load temps just don't make sense. Is it possible that I damaged some temp sensor while installing the block?
 
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It depends where the sensors are etc.

MSI AB monitors the GPU die temp only (AFAIK). Components like the Power delivery and memory on the card will also produce heat - which would be reflected in the backplate temps, but not in the temp recorded by AB.


As for the results as a whole, the 240mm RAd will probably help some -- typically a 120mm rad is sufficient (that's why the hybrid cards ship with them).


25'C definitely seems low though. Have temps leveled out at that point? AIOs take time to reach a consistent temp due to the properties of the fluid.

Barty1884

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It depends where the sensors are etc.

MSI AB monitors the GPU die temp only (AFAIK). Components like the Power delivery and memory on the card will also produce heat - which would be reflected in the backplate temps, but not in the temp recorded by AB.


As for the results as a whole, the 240mm RAd will probably help some -- typically a 120mm rad is sufficient (that's why the hybrid cards ship with them).


25'C definitely seems low though. Have temps leveled out at that point? AIOs take time to reach a consistent temp due to the properties of the fluid.
 
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jamiltsaleh

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thanks for the reply!

I was also reasonably certain that AB was monitoring the GPU die temps, which does make more sense. It's good to have someone confirm it. I learned over the past week from other threads that the VRM and power delivery modules will generate a decent amount of heat as well, hence the need for thermal pads and whatnot. Temps have settled between 30 to 35 degrees Celsius now, which seems a fair bit more reasonable. Good point in that the fluid in the AIO isn't *just* water and might not display the same properties initially; everything is rock solid stable when gaming/benching, and it all seems copacetic.

I actually had the choice of a 120mm or 240mm, and since there was only a three dollar difference at the time of buying it, I went for the larger one. In any case, everything seems to be normalizing, and I very much appreciate the info for a first-time liquid cooling noob such as myself.

All the best, and thanks again!

One last question tho, how do i mark a thread as solved or closed, etc.?
 

Barty1884

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Even if it were *just* water, by the nature of it, it will take time to normalize.
Air coolers will pretty much shoot up to their max temp instantly, liquid takes time (15-30mins is usually a safe bet, to be sure).

30-35'C still seems a bit on the low side, but a 240mm rad might be the reason there.

What kind of ambient temp do you have? It's impossible to see sub-ambient idle temps without exoit (or weird) cooling methods because ambient is the air flowing across the rad and/or idle isn't strictly always going to be 0% load, it's just minimal load.


Selecting the best answer, as you have done, is sufficient to mark as "solved".