Upgrading an old stock Desktop with these parts, what kind of performance should I expect?

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Fujitsu Esprimo P420
Operating System:
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU:
Intel Core i5 4430 @ 3.00GHz
Haswell 22nm Technology
RAM:
6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard:
FUJITSU D3230-A1 (SOCKET 0)
Graphics:
40FHD_LCD_TV (1920x1080@50Hz)
Intel HD Graphics 4600 (Fujitsu Siemens Computer)
Storage:
465GB Seagate ST500DM002-1BD142 (SATA )
Optical Drives:
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GHB0N
Audio:
Realtek High Definition Audio
PSU :
Fujitsu D12-250p1a (250Watt Continuous).

Theres 1 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot.

What I've bought:

FSP 600W 85 PLUS MODULAR HYPER M PSU

ASUS CERBERUS-GTX1050TI-A4G Graphics Card

Crucial MX500 250GB SATA 2.5-inch 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal SSD

Crucial Desktop SSD Install Bracket (3.5-inch)

I'm very new to this and quite worried that the parts are wrong or won't fit. Basically my current HDD is horribly slow and World of Warcraft takes about 5 minutes to load a new zone. So I bought an SSD along with the bracket needed to fit in a 3.5" slot. I then bought a Gtx 1050ti which should play WoW on decent settings (could it play ultra?). I then bought a 600w PSU because the current 250w is supposedly too low. As I said, I'm not sure about all these parts, as I didn't have a measuring tape or anything like that so I'm unsure if the graphics card or PSU will even fit in the case. The case is a big size however, like a normal generic PC Desktop, not a think or slim case.
Also, along with if the items will be suitable, what kind of performace will I be expecting to play most current games on?

Thank you all so much in advance, this forum is literally so important for someone like me, I wouldn't have a clue about any of this if I wasnt able to come here and follow/read other peoples threads, along with having my own questions answered by helpful people.
 
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okay so we though you had the D3230-B board but in fact you have the D3230-A13 board.
its a 16 Pin connector for power... it is a 12V motherboard similar to what Dell did as well, but dropped later.
I was unable to find a Fujitsu tested converted from ATX 24 Pins to 16 pin connector. Seen some dell ones but cannot discover if the connectors are the same and could cause a blow out of motherboard.

more bad news according to wiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_unit_%28computer%29
Since 2011, Fujitsu and other tier-1 manufacturers[14] have been manufacturing systems containing motherboard variants that require only a 12 V supply from a custom-made PSU, which is typically rated at 250–300 W. DC-DC conversion, providing 5 V and...
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1/ your computer case looks to be a mid tower that is a good thing.
2/ before swapping out your psu, I would look at your current motherboard and see if it has the standard ATX 24 pin connector on the motherboard, because if it does not, then you will need to find an adaptor (like the one for dell going from 24 to 8 pin for example), if your not sure open case and read me the model number on your motherboard. I search for it.
3/ the 1050ti will run fine once you solve the PSU possible issue.

As for performance, gaming will be better yes. anything will be better than that an HD4600, once you have it in place dont forget to change bios to be auto or use PCIE only, and set IPG not to be shared, so you can reclaim some ram from your system that was used for your internal video card.

take it one step at a time, and you will get through it.
 
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further searching about your system reveals the most common motherboard board used on this system was the D3230. and searching for that, shows that the connector seems to be a standard ATX 24 pin connector for power (and looking at the cpu I can see the standard 4 pin connector you will also need to connect) seems that your in great shape for the power supply swap in your system
ref:
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The rest of the details of the motherboard confirm my findings : http://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/fujitsu/fujitsu-mainboard-d3230-b/34295-596015.html
 
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Hi and first of all thank you so much. Very easy to read and well explained. this is my motherboard as far as I know.
ftp://ftp.ts.fujitsu.com/pub/Mainboard-OEM-Sales/Products/Mainboards/EoL/EoL_ClassicDesktop/Datasheets/D3xxx/DS_D3230-A.pdf

Hopefully its similar to the one you linked and I wont need to get an adaptor.

dont forget to change bios to be auto or use PCIE only, and set IPG not to be shared, so you can reclaim some ram from your system that was used for your internal video card.
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how do I do this? Also, do I need to do anything before I plug the graphics card in? I assume you plug it in, and then connect your HDMI from the new card to the TV?
 
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okay so we though you had the D3230-B board but in fact you have the D3230-A13 board.
its a 16 Pin connector for power... it is a 12V motherboard similar to what Dell did as well, but dropped later.
I was unable to find a Fujitsu tested converted from ATX 24 Pins to 16 pin connector. Seen some dell ones but cannot discover if the connectors are the same and could cause a blow out of motherboard.

more bad news according to wiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_unit_%28computer%29
Since 2011, Fujitsu and other tier-1 manufacturers[14] have been manufacturing systems containing motherboard variants that require only a 12 V supply from a custom-made PSU, which is typically rated at 250–300 W. DC-DC conversion, providing 5 V and 3.3 V, is done on the motherboard; the proposal is that 5 V and 12 V supply for other devices, such as HDDs, will be picked up at the motherboard rather than from the PSU itself, although this does not appear to be fully implemented as of January 2012.
The reasons given for this approach to power supply are that it eliminates cross-load problems, simplifies and reduces internal wiring that can affect airflow and cooling, reduces costs, increases power supply efficiency, and reduces noise by bringing the power supply fan speed under the control of the motherboard. At least two of Dell's business PCs introduced in 2013, the Optiplex 9020 and Precision T1700, ship with 12 V–only power supplies and implement 5 V and 3.3 V conversion exclusively on the motherboard.
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if you could find a confirmation that Fujitsu and dell used the same pin out on their 16pin connector then you could in theory use a atx 24 pin to 16 pin dell connector and use it , but I make no claims this will work at this time as it remain unconfirmed.

also found at https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/stupid-fujitsu-12v-only-psu-16pin-connector.236795/ another issue that will need to be addressed that 4 pin on your board is not the standard ATX 4/8 pin connector and therefore further pushes that ATX P{{SU as being compatible.

I am sorry mate your looking at serious rewiring to try to get 11.3V to main board and poweri8ng devices with 5/3vc connectors...
I think it is time to return the PSu you just Bought and Video card and get a new computer.



I researched these links to provide as much information as I could to you:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=95&t=1464320
https://superuser.com/questions/926794/whats-the-pinout-for-fujitsu-16-pin-psus-eg-model-d12-250p1a
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/stupid-fujitsu-12v-only-psu-16pin-connector.236795/
 
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Thanks for the reply but unfortunately I opened all boxes and with my supplier I cant return them now. My CPU is more than enough for my needs, along with my ram and new graphics card/power supply. Could I now take all this to a pc repair shop and have them source a new motherboard for me and hook everything up for me? I assume that would cost less than just buying a new pc which is financially out of the question for me right now.
 
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