What PSU is best for my Build *crashing issue while under load*

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mitchellbedore

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A little backstory,
I built this systems about a week and a half ago, after a few hiccups everything seemed to be fine,after loading some more intense games I ran into issues of losing signal to my monitor whilst my gpus fans went to 100 percent , after numerous attempts trying to adjust settings retrying and crashing anywhere from right away to hour or two into some games, I posted here for some help and someone said my PSU was undersized (500wBQ), and wasn't pushing enough amps through the 12v rail cause my unit to overheat and perform below the atx standard. Told me to look into a seasonic 630w atleast, I'm wondering - what PSU would be the best fit to prevent any future issues like the ones described, I don't have the greatest understanding of the PSU part of a new system, though this is my second build I understand the lingo and know how to Google so any helpful information regarding this subject would be greatly appreciated,
the build ;
Core i5 8600
ASUS gtx 1060 6gb
1x8GB DDR4 2400 g/skill ripjaw
Asus prime z370-a
1tb seagate hd
120 gb kingston ssd
EVGA 500w (BQ) 80+ (would rma for new psu I'm assuming atleast gold certified 650 w )
Nzxt s340 elite
 
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PSUs really aren't a part you should make a big deal about. I'd recommend a modular one as they're easy to build with and and look better due to not having excess cables. As for power output 500-550 watts will be cheap and effective.
 
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My current 500 w PSU is causing my system to crash randomly during game load. Im more concerned on a reliable upgrade than cheap and effective, as that's what is now causing me issues, I picked a cheap and effective psu.

 
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An EVGA PSU should be more than reliable. That sounds more like the unit than the model's fault.
 
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I tend to go the opposite route. I make a big deal out of which PSU I select. The problem with cheap ones is, when they fail, they lack circuit protection which allows them to fry other components in the system. In addition, I like to overclock, and it's imperative that you have consistent power for a stable overclock.
 
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I disagree that you are under-powered. While the BQ from EVGA isn't the best PSU they make, it is still a good budget level PSU, and 500W is enough for a gtx1060 and a non-OC cpu. I'm not saying your PSU isn't the problem, it vary well may be, as sometimes you get a bad egg. In addition, I would personally have a higher wattage in my own system. But on paper 500W with 62A on the +12v rail is more than enough for your system, and the BQ lineup is not terrible.
 
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That's just wrong. The PSU is a very important part, a bad choice here can literally ruin a system. If you think a PSU is not an important decision you should not be giving advice.
 
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My current psu is EVGA, and the way it was explained to me wasn't that my PSU didn't have enough power, it just couldn't push enough through the 12v rail for the for my GPU while under load causing my GPU to crash, that seems to be a big problem, this is the only issue I've had with my Build and it's primarily for gaming so it's a big one.
 
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For your particular situation, you should get a reliable psu that can push more watts than required- just to be safe. If you can get it for a good price, I think you should go for the Cooler Master’s Masterwatt 750w. Although it might be too much, having spare power to push through your components is actually useful- and it could possibly fix your problem.
 
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This is the only time I have an issues while loading games does it make sense that I have a bad PSU while everything else works fine? I have left it off too prevent anything from happening but I can browse and play small load games fine , I do not have an issue RMAing the EVGA 500 and buy a EVGA 650 instead, as long as it makes sense for future proofing, I don't want my new love to die over a 60$ mistake .
 
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A good quality 450w PSu would power that system reliably, however the 500w BQ is not a good PSU. It's a budget unit made by Andyson and is best avoided. Andyson PSU quality ranges from firestarter to mediocre. I'd tell you were the BQ falls in that range but Evga has been too ashamed to submit them for professional review so it's suspect at best. You can currently get a CX450 for $45 an CX550m for $50 which are decent budget options, or a 450w Seasonic Focus for $54(better quality and more efficient than the CXs).
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/3hkwrH,Q7L7YJ,Qb8j4D/
 
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Sounds like the unit is failing when put under a load. If you go for another Evga try to get a B2, G2, GS, P or P2,
 
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At the time of building I was on budget of 1500 CAD for every component, I came under budget after all purchases, and had 120 ad extra from an RMA on ram, so let's say budget isn't an issue looking for 100-150 CAD on the PSU , what would you reccomend as a replacement . I guess i saw EVGA and just immediately trusted it, do you believe THE PSU to be the culprit of the issues I described in my OP

*thanks to everyone for such fast and intuitive responses
 
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I'm gonna be a rebel and say that your PSU is fine and that it's your GPU that's faulty.
As already mentioned, if working correctly, there's no reason the EVGA BQ 500 wouldn't be able to power your system.
However having dealt with several faulty PSUs myself i know that a crash caused by insufficient power will usually happen near immediately when there's a load on the system, not 2 hours in.
And from how it crashes it's pretty obvious it's the GPU that fails, as a crash caused by insufficient power will usually end up in a BSOD or the whole computer shutting down suddenly.
 
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I forgot to mention I have 4 case fans, 2 led 2 standard with case and cpu cooler, 1 cooler master 212 Evo , led aswell. I didn't think it would cause any difference but on second thought any and all info is helpful.
 
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It would crash instantly at times and the max I got was 1 hour 48 min on fallout 4 title screen than I loaded in settlement and crash. But I do see what your saying as there was still powe to my system. I am hoping not the gpu though but thank you for speaking as the rebel
 
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There's a test i usually do to determine a faulty PSU: Run Prime95 with Large FFTs and Furmark at the same time. If it crashes within 10 mins then it's most likely your PSU.

Edit: If it crashes immediately when starting Furmark it could also mean that your gpu failed when trying to load a 3d environment.
In which case GPU and PSU faults are equally possible.
 
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I haven't under load I have left my pc off in fear of damaging other components, I know on boot not under load the Temps are average 22 to 28 c I can attempt to under load what is a reliable and safe program you use
 
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As finster posted Prime95 and Furmark are good stress test programs for monitoring you can use HWinfo or HW monitor.
 
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These are the results from a 30 minute test (at 1080p, didnt realize i wasn't at 1080)
https://imgur.com/a/OFO1fmH
i will now attempt the prime95 and furmark at the same time and update this post with my findings.

**EDIT**
At the ten minute mark i took some screenshots of my temps and power usage , still running the two stress tests and monitoring, no crashes yet.

**EDIT 2**
at the hour mark i took some more screenshots, if anyone has any more info or tests i can run, please let me know
https://imgur.com/a/LCtmai4
 
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Worst advice ever. The PSU is the single most important part of a PC. Something like this would be an excellent choice.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($114.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $114.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-04 21:35 EDT-0400

I would have said 650w, but the 750w is only like $5 more. I use this PSU in my rig.
 
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im open to a 750 just to keep room for upgrades, but im still at this point trying to find the real issue of my problem. i was looking at the g2 as well.
 
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mitchellbedore

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I have run all of the recommended stress tests in the thread, and have had no crashes - still running the dual prime95 and furmark, at 69-70c, im not sure if this is good or bad sign for the GPU, as i wouldn't mind upgrading the PSU anyways, especially after the negative reviews. i am looking for longevity in this build.
 
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