I have a budget like 500 euros and i want to upgrade my cpu and gpu but i dont know how many watts is my psu

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Hey i want a new pc and i was thinging to build one but i want something very good and now my budget is 500 euros.My idea is to upgrade my 2010 pc that i have now with an intel pentium and a gtx 1030 so i can save more money to build a good high end pc in future.But i dont know how many watts my psu have to upgrade the cpu and gpu.I think i cant upgrade it so i have to change the psu but I have never built / upgraded a computer anytime.Please help me...
 
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My first computer build, I read the motherboard manual five times from front to back before I even tried putting it in the case. There's nothing wrong with being afraid and yes, mistakes can be costly.

Again, building it yourself is a decision only you can make. It's one I'm glad I made and once I finally understood what I was doing, it became a no-brainer for me. I suspect it will be so with you as well, but you have to decide to take that step.

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Thank you.I'll look at it
 
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Hey again.I open up the case and i couldnt see anything on the psu,then i search the model of my pc [which is HP pavilion p6-2101] and i saw that my psu is 300w [BUT I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THE MODEL OF THAT PC I SAW WAS HP pavilion p6-2100 AND NOT HP pavilion p6-2101 BUT I THINK THEIR KINDA SAME].Now i want to upgrade my system with an Intel Pentium Dual Core G4560 and an GeForce GT 1030 2GB.I thing those two together are about 100 W.By the way my other specs are: RAM:4,00GB Single-Channel DDR3,MOBO Foxconn 2ABF,Storage:465GB Hitachi.1 more question can i put those two gt 1030 and intel pentium g4560 at this mobo that i have?

Thanks a lot...
 
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Unfortunately, I'm not able to find an official CPU Support List for that motherboard. What I did find is that it is a socket 1155 motherboard with an H61 chipset and a 95watt TDP limit.

Since the Pentium G4560 is of a different socket (LGA 1151), it is not compatible with your motherboard. Unfortunately, at the same price point as the Pentium G4560, there isn't really a processor upgrade for you until you hit the $90 range (Intel Core I5-2400).

The graphics card upgrade, however, should be doable (borderline power supply). Just make sure your monitor has a digital input (DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort) as the GT 1030 does not support VGA.

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Ok.Thanks for the help so much!
 
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Also i have to update my mobo bios to put any i5?And something else because i am from Greece and i live in Greece,here i couldn't find the Intel Core I5-2400.Is there another intel cpu for around 100 euros/dollars that i can use for my pc?[Or i can buy a used Intel Core I5-2400 from amazon with $49.95+ $4.99 shipping but i don't know if it's worth it to buy a used cpu]And as you told me before this particular graphics card reaches the limit of my psu watts [and because I may have to put another cpu on the one that you suggested me because it does not exist in Greece], I can surely put it or will there be a problem? Thanks again.Sorry for all that questions but i am new to these things...Thanks so much dude i was gonna put an intel pentium on my mobo xD I am so stupid...Thanks man.
 
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Hey again xD.I saw in HP Customer Support site that:
Processor upgrade information

Socket type: LGA 1155

TDP: 35W up to 95W (processor dependent)

Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Core i3-2xxx/T dual core
Core i3-2xxx dual core
Core i5-2xxx quad core
Core i7-2xxx quad core
Core G5xx/T dual core
Core G6xx/T dual core

So I can put an Intel Pentium Dual Core Gold G5400 [I guess?]
 
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No. That's also a socket 1151 processor.

As I already said:

Since the Pentium G4560 is of a different socket (LGA 1151), it is not compatible with your motherboard. Unfortunately, at the same price point as the Pentium G4560, there isn't really a processor upgrade for you until you hit the $90 range (Intel Core I5-2400).
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Ohh..Ok thanks
 
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Ohhh now i see my mobo socket is 1155 and the cpu socket is 1151 xD i am so stupid.Ok its worth it to buy only the gpu for
[about] 100 euros [Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2GB]? Please tell me if its not worth it can you tell me a budget gaming pc build for about 500-600 ok Thanks so much
 
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Using the case and hard drives from your current system, this would probably work for you:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€147.89 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: G.Skill - NS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€154.82 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Already owned
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card (€94.89 @ Alternate)
Case: Already owned
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€75.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €533.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:11 CEST+0200

I'm not sure where you're located, so I had to use the German PC Part Picker. This should get you started.

As an alternative, you could also go with a newer and better CPU (at higher cost), but you would likely need to get a Boot Kit from AMD in order to use this CPU with the less new motherboard:

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (€194.89 @ Alternate)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Memory: G.Skill - NS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€154.82 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Already owned
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card (€94.89 @ Alternate)
Case: Already owned
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€75.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €580.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:16 CEST+0200

Or, if you prefer the Intel side:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€173.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€71.78 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - NS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€154.82 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Already owned
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Phoenix Fan OC Video Card (€94.89 @ Alternate)
Case: Already owned
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€75.84 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €571.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-08 12:22 CEST+0200

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And i have another idea if you can help me i was thinking to buy a 360 euros pc [is this but is in greek
https://www.infoworld.gr/pegasus/products01/show00.php?code=125308&pcode=SHOW_PROD125308] it has AMD RYZEN 2200G , ATX 500W silent FAN , no windows , 8GB DDR4 SDRAM 2400MHz , and i dont know what mobo.I was thinking to buy this pc and to buy a gpu for that pc because it doesnt have.and i think its a great idea because its about 450 euros and all i have to do is to put my gpu in and install windows but problem 1 i dont know how to install windows 10 and 2 I do not know how to put on the graphic card (I know a little bit but I'm not sure). Smothing else if you can tell me if I can easily upgrade it and if so (I mean a graphics card and a processor)i have to update the bios of my motherboard? (and if you can tell me how i do the bios update) The big problem is i dont know what mobo that pc has :(
 
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That depends on AMD. The next generation of processors may work with this motherboard socket, or they may not. We don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say that, on average, a CPU socket is good for two generations of CPUs; the Ryzen 2xxx series being the second generation for socket AM4.

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ok thanks but its worth buying it? i mean this pc and a gpu for around 100 euros
 
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I can't open the link to the computer, but I'll answer as best I can.

1) You should be able to install any low to medium graphics card you want into that system, provided that:
1a) It has an available PCI-Ex16 expansion slot
1b) It physically fits within the computer case.

2) As for installing Windows 10, just follow these instructions. You'll need a working computer with a solid Internet connection and an 8GB USB drive. Once created, you can use this to install Windows onto your new computer. You can run it without activation (sans customization) without issue.

3) Graphic card installation is pretty straightforward. There are many videos on YouTube that show you how. Just check the specifications of the power supply in that computer. See if it lists any PCIE 6-pin, 8-pin, or 6+2-pin power connectors. Low-end graphic cards typically do not require extra power from the power supply, but if you decide to upgrade, additional power is going to be required from the power supply via one or more of the PCIE cables. If the power supply doesn't have them, it's not designed to power a higher-end graphics card.

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That's up to you. I can't make that decision for you. It's not what I would do, as I'd build it myself, from scratch, but I'm not you. If you trust the company that is selling this more than your ability or desire to build it yourself, then go for it.

The difference being if you build it yourself, you know what components are included. You know the capabilities of the motherboard. You know the speed of the RAM, your know the connections available on the power supply. If you purchase this unit, unless the specific model numbers of the components used are given by the seller, these are thing you're taking for granted.

If they're not listed, engage the seller. There is no harm is asking for specific and then looking them up on your own.

Just as an example, let's say the seller says the power supply is a "Seasonic M12II-620 EVO". Do a Google search on that and you'll find the specs: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Seasonic+M12II-620+EVO

You can do the same for every component of your computer.

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Ok thanks again xD.My thoughts are 3: I can buy this and add a gpu 2. I make a pc myself and 3. I buy one ready with everything and windows and all. Since I have seen at the internet the best option is to maka one myself but the point is I have not made one again and I'm afraid I'll make a mistake [I'm thinking about making one on youtube]
 
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