Can somebody help me choose the rightmost SSD?

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(Warning! A lot of text! Most interesting part is in the end! You don't have to read it all, but if you want to understand all of my concerns, please read. Thank you. )

OK, I'm not interested in how the data is written or anything like that, to be fair, but what I'm interested is is that... OK, first part will be the preface.

Windows writes temporary files to the computer, while you surf the Web the browser writes temp files to your computer, and everything like this, and everything like that. OK. Now, to the next part.

I may be writing a lot of data, and under a lot I don't mean tb/day or so, but I may download a game from Steam, and then uninstall it some time later. Then, after some time I may re-download it and re-start playing. Why uninstall it in the first place? Well, I may buy another game, which is as fun or even better than the first one. (My 1tb HDD is full, I have a lot of data. Not all of it is games/programs, but largest chunk of it is.) But then I might want to re-install the first game because I liked it so much I wanted to play it again. Or the programs. I don't really know how it works, but... let's say I have the Autodesk package. It updates every year, right? So, the installer/updater deletes the "obsolete" files and rewrites them with the newer ones. Right? Should I be concerned about the TBW in that case?

Let's go to the next part.

Is there any real advantage of M.2 over SATA SSD, and if I were to buy, say, Samsung 970 Pro vs 970 Evo vs 960... vs SATA SSD. Would it win? The 970 Pro. What I'm interested is not only the speed - that is very important factor to consider, but to me, what also matters is the TBW. I don't want to buy an SSD that will be useless in 5 years or so. I want it to be working for... years, like, 10s of years. I understand nothing lasts forever, but the longer, the better. And the faster the better, if it wins greatly.

After all of this, $500 for a 1tb SSD is a little too expensive, which is here comes the last question for today, and really, the only one worthy...

tl;dr:

Which SSD is best for all of these factors: speed, TBW, price. (Any other factors I need to add?)

P.S. A quick reminder: I want 1tb SSD. I understand I'm asking for too much, but I want the best products I can get and not overly expensive, if possible.
 
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Any garden variety SSD is faster than a 10,000RPM HDD, or even a 15,000 RPM drive.

SSD's have near zero access time. That's...

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1. What do you use this system for? Games, mostly? An NVMe drive (970 EVO) probably is not worth the extra $$.

2. In 2018, the advertised TBW lifespan is mostly irrelevant in normal consumer use. It will fall off warranty due to age long before you reach that TBW warranty number. And the better SSD's, be they SATA or NVMe, benerally last far, far longer than that TBW number.
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4178/10/hardwareinfo-tests-lifespan-of-samsung-ssd-840-250gb-tlc-ssd-updated-with-final-conclusion-final-update-20-6-2013

3. In no particular order, Samsung 850 EVO ($310), 860 EVO ($240), or Crucial MX500 ($200).
All 1TB at Newegg.
 

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850 is still relevant? It's how old, 3 years old? Well, anyways. What about the speed? I wouldn't expect a 1 second boot time, but... 5 seconds? 10 seconds? I'm not sure how long it takes for my hard drive to boot Windows up now, but it's far more than 10 seconds. Can Crucial make it in 10 seconds? In 5 seconds? I have a lot of programs open most of the time, and I would like all of them to boot up in no time.

P.S. Thanks for a quick reply, btw
 

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850 is still good, 860 is the follow on model.
Crucial MX500...I defy anyone to tell the difference in a blind test.
WD Blue SATA III as well.

I would not hesitate to have any of those SATA III drives in my system.
My current boot drive is an 850 EVO 500GB.
 

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Well, I understand SSD is much faster than HDD, but... how much faster? If I were to get the 10,000 RPM HDD, would it compare with the SSD? The same Crucial. If not by much, maybe get the 10,000 RPM HDD? More expensive, but... Much faster?

I'm not interested so much in the blind tests. Of course, roughly saying, I would prefer the 970 pro. Tons of TBW, super fast, what else could I dream of? Oh yeah, to be cheaper. But, no luck with that. This is why I'm asking for the "fastest" SSD, which also has good TBW and not too expensive. If th MX500 can do it - why pay $300 more, for not so big difference, right?
 

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Any garden variety SSD is faster than a 10,000RPM HDD, or even a 15,000 RPM drive.

SSD's have near zero access time. That's what makes the difference.
I would not build a PC without one or more SSD's.

In fact, my 3 main house systems are all SSD only.
Faster, quieter, less power draw, etc, etc, etc.

My next system will probably be a mix of NVMe m.2 and SATA III SSD's.
 
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The MX500 would be indistinguishable from an 850/860EVO, get whichever is least expensive; the 1 TB 860 was on sale for $237 recently, a grand bargain if /when you can find that sort of sale...

The 960-/970 EVO are great for benchmarks and 4 second boot times, but, you still wait 1 minute loading games/joining games, etc....; the extra $100 (over equivalent standard 2.5" SATA spec drive of equal size) might not really worth 1-2 seconds off bootimes. (But, admittedly, installing Win10 Pro from a USB 3.0 flash drive to NVME drive and being at desktop in 4 minutes is a staggering experience the first time it happens!)

as to TBW written/warranties, I've got 10.5 TB written on a 14-15 month old 960EVO, and, naturally, most folks will be at 10 years serice/ lifetime before ever coming near the typical 100-200 TB service life of most SSDs... (Although Samsung is now offering longer 5 year warranties on even the TLC drives....)