Need to bypass VPN installed on my Laptop by my Channel Partner

rawraj · Jul 8, 2018

I have a VPN installed by my Channel partner to access their platform. But whenever I connect the VPN the internet stops.
Yes I know that I can anytime stop the VPN and browse then net.
The problem is I also have a Dialer software that the laptop is connected via the wifi.
It has a real time Dashboard I need to keep monitoring all the time.
The Software accessed through the VPN is a ancient Oracle based platform that is still working on Java 6 and can only run on IE 8.
Its just ridiculous they have disabled the firewall and removed any antivirus and reduced the security setting to low.
Its another issue my Laptop is wide open to any attack, but that is how they work.
That is how the entire country is working with them. So cant really complain.

Also this can only be installed on Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit version.
I had to downgrade this laptop. I need to have this installed in other laptops too but they are all new laptops with windows 10

So apart from accessing the Local Dialer software my need to Bypass this VPN is to access the this laptop remotely to access the Oracle Software.
I cannot afford to install it in all my laptop(which the company will do gladly) as I cannot leave my laptop open to an attack.
I thought of installing anydesk and accessing this laptop from other offices and remotely instead of installing the VPN with extremely vulnerable security settings and You cannot update windows after installing this or else it will stop working.

If I could just access the internet directly only for anydesk or Teamviewer or any similar software would be enough.

THe main reason for bypassing is that they only want windows pro 7, so cant use a new laptop.
The laptop is open to attack firewall disabled no antivirus software can be installed.
And No windows updates allowed.

Just to sum up.
This laptop which has the VPN installed is practically useless for other work like checking emails and monitoring the Dialer software.
So If I could only bypass the internet block and run anydesk or such I could just leave this laptop in the office and access it from other offices.

I have full right to allow internet its just that the company IT team just doesn't know how to do this their attitude is just block everything for security purposes. Since they have stripped off all security and not even allowing updates just to make this prehistoric oracle software work

ElectrO_90 · Jul 8, 2018

I'd give up using that channel partner and find a better one.
Only solution is another computer connected, and use your monitoring software on it, like team viewer or such and put that in another window.

rawraj · Jul 9, 2018

ElectrO_90 :

Wish I could do that. But it would be ending business with them.

Exactly I want to use anydesk or teamviewer but the internet is blocked when the VPN is turned on.
So i cant use this from another PC/Laptop.

I want to know how can I bypass this VPN and connect to the internet while running the VPN so I can access anydesk or teamviewer

Alabalcho · Jul 9, 2018

What about installing a virtual machine, with separate Windows install inside, just for your ancient software?

USAFRet · Jul 9, 2018

Buy another laptop/PC for that use.

Their "requirements" (Win 7 32bit, restrictive VPN, "no antivirus software can be installed"), would lead me to dedicating a separate device for that function.

In no way would I expose my main system to that.

rawraj · Jul 12, 2018

Alabalcho :

I thought of that too, but I don' think the IT admin would be able to install it inside the virtual machine. I would need a very powerful computer. This thing stops to respond on a i3 1.7gh dual core. with 8 GB ram.

I am sorry if I was not clear but if you read my main aim is to have this run on multiple computers at least 3 and I cannot dedicate 3 laptops to this that cant be used for anything else

So If I could just bypass the VPN for team viewer or a similar VNC then I could access it from my other laptops.

rawraj · Jul 12, 2018

USAFRet :

Exactly right now I have it on a laptop that I am too afraid to open my email on.

The problem is I need this on 2 more systems, I can afford to dedicated one laptop to this but not 3.
Thats why I want to bypass the VPN just for the teamviewer or Anydesk so I can just access the software from another laptop or PC or even a phone
My Main aim is to access this dedicated laptop from another device/Machine through VNC hence I need to be able to bypass the Internet block on my VPN

USAFRet · Jul 12, 2018

rawraj :

"2 more systems" ?
Why?

They expect you to pay for several totally unsecured systems?
This better be a high paying job.

OK, in this instance, i would, if possible, do this in multiple VM's in this one physical hardware.
or...
They buy you the hardware.

rawraj · Jul 12, 2018

USAFRet :

Basically this is a system that allows you to check if you have verified a customer properly. We send staff on the field to verify customers for new cell phone postpaid plans. We have several staff doing this at the same time. We have two offices.
They use a OTG device to scan the customer fingerprint and upload various documents. If one thing is missing it gets rejected. Then the field staff as to go again to get the fingerprint scanned.
To avoid this we can check the system while the exec is with the customer and if something is not right, we tell him exactly what he is doing wrong and he restarts the process again till its successful.

So one laptop is not enough we have 3 executives managing these field staff so we need this system on 3 laptops.

Or like I am assuming if we can just bypass the internet block and get teamviewer or such to run then the other two system can access this.

Now the reason I don't want to invest in 2 more laptops is the company is moving to a cloud based systems that can be accessed through any browser in a month or so.(but it might get delayed by 2 months as we all know how these things work).
So then I would be left with two extra laptops. These executives who manage these laptops also need to access the net simultaneously which includes accessing emails and then is data on these laptops that we cannot expose

USAFRet · Jul 13, 2018

rawraj :

Then this concept cannot work. Ever.

One one hand, this application requires removal of the firewall and AV.
On the other hand, we have critical corporate data that cannot be compromised or exposed.
On the gripping hand, we have a host of other conflicts, including no OS updates.

All on the same physical device.

I'm sorry for being blunt, but whoever specced out the system is an idiot.
Both the people who make the software and the people (in your company) who approved and purchased it.

I have no real ideas how to make this work the way you think it should. I do not believe it is possible.
Sorry.

rawraj · Jul 13, 2018

USAFRet :

I totally agree with you no need to apologize. In my company there is nothing to approve. When we do sales for them we need to access their system to check certain things. To do that we have to accept it. There are more than 600 partners nationwide who don't even have a clue that there is something wrong with it.

Fortunately just like me I am sure a few others have raised their voice and they are migrating to a cloud based system where everything can be accessed via a browser on a PC with minimum configurations.

Until then all I am trying to find a way to bypass the VPN block only for this particular VNC application(teamviewer or anydesk).

I know there are way to bypass it i saw another thread where they were giving advise who to unblock VPN blocked internet but the thread was closed as it is against the forum's policy.

Only those who own the PC/Laptop and have the authority to unblock(as in my case, the IT guy has given a go ahead. He said he doesn't know but if I can unblock one application without messing with the operation of the system then he would also like to know how to do it) will be given help as per this forum's policy.

So I am looking for an solution.

Thanks

USAFRet · Jul 13, 2018

Right.
The "against forum policy" is referring to getting around corporate blocks.
"My company is blocking this...how do I get around it" (or similar)

This is skirting right on the edge of that.

rawraj · Jul 13, 2018

USAFRet :

Yeah but this more like. We have no clue how to secure our network because of what we have done to allow these old prehistoric java to run so we are just blocking the entire internet just in case. Also this is my office PC internet connection located in a different location so doesn't go against Policy.
They are open to finding ways cause everyone is complaining.

The internet 8 security update doesnt allow their software to run. They have no idea it doesn't. I had to tell disconnect the netmeeting. Uninstall the updates myself and then restart and show them..."See I told you so"

.
That is their level of incompetence, thats they they just block everything.

We have no other choice, we just keep one laptop or as many as we want for this. My only other option is to buy some used thinkpads or something like that and keep them there. But even that would be a waste after 1 or 2 months when they migrate to the browser based application.

USAFRet · Jul 13, 2018

rawraj :

That's what I would do.
With specific documentation as to why.

rawraj · Jul 13, 2018

USAFRet :

I dont want to waste money and end up with a extra laptops which will be of no use. All the staff and me and partners already have personal laptops which we can use when the system goes to the cloud.

What specific documentation are you asking for?

USAFRet · Jul 13, 2018

rawraj :

Documentation as to why you spent company money on these extra laptops, that may become obsolete in two months.
Presumably you'd have to justify that expenditure to someone?

"This application prevents the users from doing X"
"It opens critical holes in the system, leading to potential data leakage"
"Having to work around this crappy software is costing the user (executive) 4 man hours per day. 4 people x 4 hours/day x 5 days = 80 man hours per week. At their current pay rate, that = $LotsAndLots of money"
4 x $500 laptops = $2000. Basically, one week of a current executive salary"

"I saved the company $4500 over the next 2 months!"

Or whatever....insert your own numbers as applicable.
Sell the laptops after.

Stuff like that.

rawraj · Jul 13, 2018

USAFRet :

Hahaha Nice...only problem is I own the company

. I want to save my money. ;-)
I am the only tech savvy guy in my company. Its all marketing staff.
I used to do networking and stuff 20 years ago. Now I am in a totally different field. Thats why I have to google

Rather turn back to the old websites where once I used to give advice, now I have to ask.

USAFRet · Jul 13, 2018

rawraj :

Then you need to hire some tech dude. Let him do all this stuff, and you run the company!

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