Strange Behavior. (High Temps On Single GPU)

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After May 5, been recently getting nvlddmkm errors in the event viewer log. When SLI is enabled, I usually get "Blocked from accessing graphics hardware" or BSODs. I've tried everything I could think of - even installing new fans. This morning I attempted to play Black Desert Online. This time instead of crashing, or any form of nvlddmkm, my FPS is a steady 20 with slight dips. If I play on a single GPU it's 44 FPS with 76-77 degrees.

A buddy of mine informed me that there could be dust in-between the clamps of the GPU or that I need to apply fresh thermal paste. I'm really hoping this isn't the issue since my manufacturer likes to tighten their flat-mushroom head screws. I really don't want to strip the screws, since the metal is soft.

NIVIDA GeForce GTX 880M
NIVIDA GeForce GTX 880M
Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.3, Build 9600)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4820K CPU @ 3.70GHz (8 CPUs), ~3.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8114MB RAM
 
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The game may not be setup for SLI which is why the performance is better on a single GPU. As for the temps those are perfectly safe (76-77C), especially for laptop SLI. Try downloading the newest drivers from Nvidia, during installation check the box that says to perform a clean installation. Once installation is done go into the Nvidia Control Panel and enable SLI. Try the game and see if performance is improved.

Hardware wise usually with SLI there needs to be a SLI bridge but I'm not entirely sure on the laptop end, check for any loose cables/ribbons between the cards and if so make sure there snug.

What temps do you get with SLI enabled?
 
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Thanks for the quick reply!

Believe me, I've tried a litany of measures from DDU'ing, downloading countless drivers, tweaks and cleaning. I even performed this measure on the Nvidia forums which granted my FPS on Black Desert Online 99-104 FPS on SLI on a 60HZ. Actually, this experience was better for 7 hours of gameplay throughout the 3 years I've owned this Sager laptop.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/784688/the-nvlddmkm-error-the-real-solution-is-here-/

I've downloaded Speccy and GPU-Z and they're about the same temps on a single GPU. At first it was 80 degrees, now it's 76-77. Can't play on SLI anymore since I updated the drivers. There was a recent Windows 10 update (Blocked the drivers update) I rolled back to the stable driver that was magnificent with the method I used above, but it's a solid 20 FPS now. This is really vexing, I hope it isn't a hardware issue.
 
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80C on SLI is still quite good so temp isn't a issue. Is there another game you can try that definitely supports SLI so you can try it out to make sure it's a (either) Windows update issue or Black Desert issue? I know BDO often updates often on Steam and when I had SLI I know some of those updates can interfere with the SLI profiles.
 
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Those high temps were on a single GPU. I've tried other games, but not recently. I've tried Vampyr, (Hung Error) State Of Decay 1 & 2 (Freezes and crashes) Evil Within 2 (Freezes) The only game that I can play without a problem is Assassin's Creed Origins w/ 30 FPS.

Since I'm experiencing a different behavior, I'll try the games again and watch the temps.
 
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Update...

Sigh...I've been at this for about two weeks.

Again the last resort is to attempt to release the clamp and apply thermal paste to resolve this issue. A recent behavior has occurred, my temps no longer skyrocket - now I can't launch any of my games, and Black Desert on SLI is a stable 20 FPS with occasional dipping to 11-10 FPS. I've updated my drivers to 398.36 and it's the same. When I launch games like Vampyr, State Of Decay, etc. I get .dll errors and this wasn't the case before. Is there anything I'm missing?

Any solution? It seems that I don't have to apply the paste since I'm getting low temps, but I'm not certain.
 
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I'll try that. Hopefully there's a new Nvidia update as well.
 
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Ugh..

After a half of month, finally got games to work after re-installing latest DirectX. Games start up as normal, but I'm still facing a steady 24FPS on Black Desert Online. No more nvlddmkm's and games still crash. Even with Vsync off still the FPS is at a stable 24...

The nvlddmkm errors are gone now, the only problem that persists are the 24 minus FPS. I DDU'd twice already before installing 399.24. What could be the problem??
 
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I don't think there's a SLI driver profile for BDO. I'm building a budget system for now using two EVGA 550 ti's (2gb version), as soon as I have it up and running (week or so) I'll try BDO with a single GPU and SLI and see if it scales better.
 
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I've used SLI with BDO for years and it was absolutely fantastic. 77-80FPS, on a 60hz - there was one point I had 80-120FPS for 7hrs.

399.07 it's the same exact thing (20-24FPS) except that I dip to 18FPS on occasion.

I'm seriously wondering what the fk happened. My device manager always state that the display adapters are working properly.
 
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Were you getting a steady 20-24 with occasional dips on BDO?

I lost count of how many times I've reinstalled Win 10. Now I'm getting nvlddmkm on single GPUs and I just upgraded to 399.24 for the fourth time.
 
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Well the last time I ran BDO smoothly was when I had a 4770K/16gb/1080 ti at 2560x1080P/75hz so the dips were pretty minimal but when I got them they dumped down to around 40-ish in heavy cities. Borrowing (atm) a Q6600/8gb/750 ti and the performance is pretty much crap, at 1366x768 on lowest settings I barely get 45 FPS (due to Q6600). I ordered a G5400 (placeholder for 9600K), Z370-A, 8gb and a few other parts today. Parts should be here in a week or so but when built I'll test single 550 ti 2gb (EVGA version!), SLI and let you know the results. Will be running Windows 10 and BDO via Steam (if that makes a difference?).

Do you think a motherboard BIOS update would help with those crashes?
 
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Just called up my OEM, and they stated that the BIOS is up to date (2014) since there is no update for my current model. I was also informed to rollback to a older driver - which I've done numerous times. Either I'm screwed, or I'll shift back to previous drivers using this method again:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/784688/geforce-drivers/the-nvlddmkm-error-the-real-solution-is-here-/2/

I noticed that 399.24 didn't come with a file folder, so I couldn't perform the above method.

EDIT: Also checked their website, and it's just drivers for 8.1. I had to manually get drivers for Win 10.

 
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Something on a positive note...

Tweaked BDO in-games settings on a single GPU to Medium High. 41-55FPS. Played for 5+ hours without a crash. Other games, however still crash. Read some forums that people make use of their SLI with 1080ti's, so it looks like I'm screwed outta using SLI for BDO on my rig.
 
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Found a solution for now...

Using driver 387.92 on a single GPU with the method I posted granted me 47-55 on High settings. Very High 30. No crashes period. Using SLI grants me 30FPS no matter what and occasional crashes. No more dips to 18FPS.

The nvlddmkm method I posted, used in conjunction with this driver is pretty stable. Before the remaster with a single GPU is was around the high 30's. Of course with SLI it was 80+.

7hrs and no crashes with 387.92.

 
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Thank you very much WildCard.

I've been using the JP client of BDO for 3 years. I've reinstalled the client, looked up forums of manually reinstalling the client...The 3 years I've played were just phenomenal on Very High settings. Smooth as silk, no lags or crashes 24+ hours.
 
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I'm really interested in seeing how my desktop SLI performs on BDO. On paper that laptop should crush my budget system but I'm interested to see how it scales. I just checked Nvidia's site and it appears the most recent driver for the 550 ti is back in March lol (391.35)
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-880M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-550-Ti/m8540vs3161

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4820K/m484278vs1675

Fortunately the G5400 and 550 ti's are only placeholders (i5-9600K/RTX mid range) plus my current monitor is only a 1600x900 so it shouldn't be too horrible but well see!

CPU is coming in tomorrow and Amazon list my other parts anywhere from the 20th-24th.
 
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Alrighty, so I'm back up and running. BDO seems to handle SLI quite well as both cards are running at 100% usage and no crashing. FPS is about 30 avg which is about right considering I'm using 7 yrs cards but now I'm experiencing an odd issue, my character can't move. Tried resetting the key binds and validating the game files with no luck. For a paid game that's not a early access title this game has some of the most annoying issues I've seen.
 
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