Desktop upgrade time

cyberbach · Jul 12, 2018

My system suffered a motherboard failure and I'd like to upgrade it but was wanting to work with DDR3 ram, where do I look?

volkgren · Jul 12, 2018

Intel's 4th-gen Core i series (socket LGA 1150) is about the best you can do on DDR3. What CPU do you have? What's your budget?

cyberbach · Jul 13, 2018

Been having quirky issues, burnt a video card up, thinking I just want to trash the old system save the ram and drives, would like to complete the build under a grand. Thanks for the response volkgren

cyberbach · Jul 13, 2018

Also note, I've got a good case/power supply, just really need a decent CPU/Mobo combo that will fly with DDR3.

Lucky_SLS · Jul 13, 2018

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($219.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($71.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 4GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1020.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-13 02:01 EDT-0400

volkgren · Jul 13, 2018

With a budget of under $1000 you have room for new DDR4 RAM, no need to build a slower used system with DDR3. You should go with 8th-gen Intel or AMD Ryzen.

cyberbach · Jul 14, 2018

You guys are right, my son was looking for more DDR3 ram... now he's got 8GB's. Thanks for the suggestions, was looking at the part list and really can't find any fault or concern except the omission of a sound card, is the onboard audio sufficient to forgo a dedicated card?

volkgren · Jul 14, 2018

Onboard audio these days is high-def, so dedicated sound cards are pretty much only necessary when going very high-end for studio quality.

That motherboard has pretty good on-board audio. http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=28&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=284

cyberbach · Jul 14, 2018

Shows how old and long it's been since I last dabbed in computer config, been putt'n soundblasterlive cards in every system since the millennium.

cyberbach · Jul 15, 2018

Got everything ordered last night, look'n forward to the challenge. Also ordered a stand alone DVD/CD burner as I realized this new build is without the external bays and I do like to burn a CD every once in a while.
Just wanted to say thank you to the community on your timely and knowledgeable responses. It's forums like this that make the net such a valuable resource. Cyberbach

volkgren · Jul 15, 2018

That's awesome glad to hear it

thanks for the respectful words.

Lucky_SLS · Jul 15, 2018

Be sure to share ur cool new upgrade in our member's system gallery thread

cyberbach · Jul 16, 2018

As soon as I get it fired up and runn'n!

cyberbach · Aug 3, 2018

Well crapity crap, crap. Got everything installed, hooked up my keyboard, mouse and monitor and powered it up for the first time.... fans spin, memory and video card light up but no signal to the monitor. Was using HDMI so I hooked up a VGA cord directly from the back panel and still no signal.... lost.

volkgren · Aug 3, 2018

I just looked over the posts in this thread and realize an X370 motherboard was suggested. That's likely your issue, because X370 requires a bios update to be compatible with 2nd-gen Ryzen CPUs. He should have suggested an X470 motherboard.

You can request a loaner CPU form AMD to administer the update. I don't know how long the request process will take.
https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx

Or you could find a Micro-Center and buy a cheap compatible CPU or order one online.
CPU: AMD - A6-9500 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($52.89 @ OutletPC)

*OR you could just return the motherboard if possible and order an X470 instead.

I apologize for not seeing this before.

Lucky_SLS :

cyberbach · Aug 3, 2018

It's all good, I'm just extremely thankful that there was a good reason this thing won't boot.... I was about to go mad!
I've already filled in all the required fields at the AMD support page and requested the boot kit. Thanks again to all, I'm sure I'll have more questions once the boot kit arrives, it's been 10 years since I had to do a bios flash, don't want to screw up and brick my system.

bmockeg · Aug 3, 2018

The Asrock is probably the easiest bios flash you can do. Just plug an Ethernet cable in and when you go into the bios there is an option to update via internet. It will download the latest version and flash it. No other steps.

cyberbach · Aug 3, 2018

Too cool, you guys rock.

cyberbach · Aug 12, 2018

Just a quick update, still waiting to receive tracking numbers for the boot kit, have received the FedEx printable label to return the CPU.... if they ever ship it.

Lucky_SLS · Aug 12, 2018

Isn't there any local shops that can do it for 10 bucks?

Lucky_SLS · Aug 12, 2018

Isn't there any local shops that can do it for 10 bucks?

And sry that I didn't mention about the update, thought it would be ez to spot that info from the cpu box. My bad.

cyberbach · Aug 12, 2018

I kind of think AMD was taking their time thinking I would find a local solution, in almost every e-mail they preface it by saying if I no longer need the boot kit to respond as such. I just found it odd that they sent the FedEx return label to print out on the 8th and the e-mail said I had 5 days to print it out which will end on Monday... I'm hopeful the CPU has already shipped and will be at my door on Monday, just really perplexed with the lack of tracking numbers, they gotta know I'm anxious right?

cyberbach · Aug 13, 2018

Lucky_SLS :

OK, today I got the boot kit from AMD, a CPU and heatsink fan combo. Of course I had to take off my heat sink and cpu and then I had to reinstall the fan support that I had removed to fit my current choice. Got it all hooked up, connected my cat 5 cable, booted it up and hit delete, went right into the UEFI and I found the UEFI Update utility. There are 3 options below it. The first is BIOS Instant Flash. When I click it I get a No Supported Device screen with a highlighted OK. The next option is Internet Flash - DHCP (Auto IP), Auto. When I hit it it initializes internet connection, then analyses the system and says No Firmware Update Available Now. OK, I went back to the first option, BIOS Instant Flash and noticed there is a screen to the right that says: Description Save files in your USB storage device and run Instant Flash to update your UEFI. Please note that your USB storage must be FAT32. OK, now it made sense that I got the No Supported device screen. So now I plug in a USB drive and hit the instant flash and it says No Image File Detected.

Am I to assume I have to go on another computer, find the ASRock website and download the bios onto a flash drive? I thought this was supposed to be instant? What am I missing?

bmockeg · Aug 13, 2018

The internet should be instant, not sure what your issue is there. If not, yes you need DL the bios on a USB drive.

cyberbach · Aug 13, 2018

I found a 5.0 version on the ASRock website and have it downloaded onto a flash drive, gett'n ready to plug it in and hit delete again then try the instant flash.... at worst I will cook the mobo and will get a X470 instead and I won't have to mess with this again.

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