How to best set up my 4 hdds and optane memory

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

I have 4 hdds and a 16gb optane memory i was looking to set up my 160gb hdd 250gb hdd and 100gb hdd into a raid 0 than load my OS to it. Than use my 2tb hdd as storage. I am unsure what i should use the optane memory on the raid 0 or the storage? Would this even be a fast and smart build. I know that raid 0 can get messed up but i have a 1tb external i use for constant backups and a 32gb flash drice with all my drivers programs diffrent bios versions was thinking of partitioning it so i can use it for a win 10 install drive also but i still have a win 10 disk so its not a real rush.

kanewolf · Jul 14, 2018

Three 100+GB disks in RAID 0 sounds like disaster waiting to happen IMO. To be that small they all have to be 5 to 10 years old. They already have a lot of hours. Just let them go. Partition your 2TB disk so that you have a 200GB partition for C: and the rest for D: Then sell your Optane (IMO), add a few $$$ and get a 250GB NVMe SSD. Copy the 200GB partition to the NVMe and be done.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

My plans to have a nvme ssd in my m.2 port and have my os loaded to it. Than have my 2tb hdd for storage and than oosted with optane but i wont be able to do that till i get a new mobo with a second m.2 port and what not do u think the 2tb partitioned and boosted with optane would be faster than what i suggested? Haha its scary how much and how old all my tech is xp. Just built a msi z370-a pro mobo 8th gen i7 8700 cpu 16gb ddr4 ram geforce gtx 1080 gpu and a 16gb optane memory and a 2 tb 7200rpm hdd so everything i got isnt compatable adly

kanewolf · Jul 14, 2018

I don't have an Intel board, but I think Optane is limited to the boot drive. 16GB is a really small helper. It can't overcome the requirement to physically move the read head. A real SSD will be faster.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

Naw they updated optanes firmware ten fold with it enabled i have a 3 sec boot time and it makes mt whole system so fast and u can now use it on raid arreys and secondary drives and more

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

My question had nothing to do with that anyways i know they make better builds than what i got but till i can get it i like playing eith what i got was just looking for some advice on what people thought would be faster and were would be best place to load my os and storage

kanewolf · Jul 14, 2018

eatenalive77 :

Again, I don't have an Intel board (or an Optane) but this forum post from Intel seems to confirm my statement about not supporting secondary HDs -- https://communities.intel.com/thread/114013?start=0&tstart=0

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

its from 2017 if u look around for recent info u will find it because i just had my secondary drive boosted and also read about them working on raid now they updated the firmware and thier rst software

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

The website has it thats some community intel thingy sorry but i dont want to argue about what i know so please stoo trolling

kanewolf · Jul 14, 2018

It sounds like you already know the answer, so I will say, good luck.

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

160gb hdd 250gb hdd and 100gb hdd into a raid 0

Would this even be a fast and smart build

No.

Those 3 drives in a RAID 0 wastes a lot of space, and they are old. Old = prone to die soon. Add the RAID 0, and that's simply playing with fire.
Those 3 drives + RAID 0 = a 300GB of space.

Optane on the "storage" drive? Why bother? Unless you are accessing the same blocks of data all the time (unlikely), it gets read at regular HDD speed.
Optane is neither magic nor predictive.

What are the rest of the specs for this?

Current updates do allow Optane to be used on a secondary drive.
But generally....why would you?

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

Ty for the actual info . what specs would u like to know . and as far as playing with fire i love it and am a pyro and i am interested in it so its not a bother this is fun playing and learning and im soon to get a nvm.e ssd for my boot and os like u suggested so when i have that i figured use the optane on my 2tb hdd and partition half as a pageing file and half for storage maybe i worded my question wrong. Wich would have faster read and writes my 2tb 7200rpm hdd boosted with optane or the 3 hdds in raid 0 boosted and once i can figure that out its were im going to put my boot and os and have the other for storage

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

eatenalive77 :

Specs, as in all the rest of the parts.
What will you be using this system for?

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

Just built a msi z370-a pro mobo 8th gen i7 8700 cpu 16gb ddr4 ram geforce gtx 1080 gpu and a 16gb optane memory and a 2 tb 7200rpm hdd. But looking for a nice and fast nvm.e m.2 ssd so till than im just playing with my * old loe memory hdd trying for a decent set up with my new nice hdd

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eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

Actually looking at a samsung v-nand ssd 970 evo nvm.e m.2. I can afford rn uuugh thag or more ram and work with what i got now

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

eatenalive77 :

And this is why asking for the full parts list is important.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-A-PRO/Specification
Your board has a single m.2 port.
So, either Optane or the NVMe drive.

Not both.

Personally, I'd much rather use that port for an NVMe drive, or even a SATA III m.2 SSD, vs the Optane thing.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

I cant get a card or adapter to connect the optane thro another pci slot ?

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

eatenalive77 :

Not that I know of.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

So would u recomend me getting a dds for my sata port for my os and boot than keeping my hdd for storage and booste it with my optane or just get the nvme ssd and get rid of optane
Till i can get a new mobo

J_E_D_70 · Jul 14, 2018

If it’ll boot from it, maybe this?

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16815256028

Leave optane where it is. Having said that, optane still looks like a gimmick, especially 16gb.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

So this is were im ar rn tho i can atm get a nvme v nand m.2 250 ssd for my os and keep the hdd and lose the optane or get a v nand ssd for my other sata port and keep the optane and use it to boost the hdd and ssd the guy at vest buy is saying optanes faster n i should keep it and get the sata ssd and use the optane to load the os on i guess they updated the firmware and software more so u can use it as a regular ssd

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

And than i can save money n get extra sata 6gb cables for my other hdds and raid 0 em lol idk anymore haha

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

Personally, I'd ditch the whole Optane thing.
NVMe drive in that m.2 port.

And if you're going to listen to the recommendations of the guy at BestBuy...I wish you good luck, sir.
I wouldn't trust them with a 4 function calculator.

USAFRet · Jul 14, 2018

eatenalive77 :

There is so much wrong with that...

1. You can't use the Optane to "boost" both the HDD and SSD
2. Optane does not really provide any benefit for an SSD
3. You don't install the OS on it...it is simply a cache for an HDD. You have no control over what ends up on that Optane space.

eatenalive77 · Jul 14, 2018

Ugh the problem is ehrn u look up info on optane u get all the links from last year so everyines miss informed with the new updates its alot more than what it used to be im sorry but i disagree and i appriciate ur time n effort but i eilk have to do the research myself ty for being polite and dealing eith my stuborn ass

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