FIOS GIG Upgrade Secondary Wifi-Router Slower

dadam191 · Jul 14, 2018

Hello all,

Thank you for taking the time to read my thread. I have seen a lot of questions on the forums but none that could directly help me.

I recently upgraded to Fios 980/880 Speed.

I have a Fios Quantum Gateway Modem/Router

Speeds are good at the modem with a direct connect ethernet line.

I have a secondary Netgear WNDR3700v3 that is hardwired out of the FIOS Quantum to my basement.

The issue is I am getting slower download speeds when connected, via CAT7 ethernet, to my NETGEAR and my PC direct connect, via CAT7, to my NETGEAR. Upload is fine but download is a bit slower.

My PC had onboard 10/100/1000mb LAN. (ASUS Rampage 3 Extreme)

600-700 Mbs Down and 800-900 Mbs Up.

I am connected with high quality CAT7 Cable (100ft) from Modem to Router and Router (3ft) to PC.

I tested the CAT7 line on my laptop and I get close to the 980/880 or better.

I am wondering if it is some kind of setting i should be changing inside the NETGEAR Genie Advanced settings.

Thanks you for your help

pctech2005 · Jul 15, 2018

From Router to Router you should be using a gigabit crossover cable.

dadam191 · Jul 15, 2018

pctech2005 :

dadam191 · Jul 15, 2018

I am using CAT7 cable, shouldn’t that be enough? That is the newest Ethernet Cable. When I connect it direct to my PC or laptop, I get full speed

bill001g · Jul 15, 2018

There is no such thing as a crossover cable on gigabit. It transmits and receives on all 4 pair on both ends at the same time. Almost magic that it can do that.

It is not uncommon for a router to bottleneck traffic at high speeds. Be careful about using any fancy feature because it will disable the hardware nat assist and your speed will drop to about 250mbps when the traffic goes via the cpu.

May be better to just avoid the problem. Do you actually need a second router or are you just trying to get better wifi. You should be able to use the second router as a AP. The lan ports act as a simple switch so should not have any impact on your performance and you get the benefit of wifi without the router function getting in the way.

dadam191 · Jul 15, 2018

bill001g :

There is no such thing as a crossover cable on gigabit. It transmits and receives on all 4 pair on both ends at the same time. Almost magic that it can do that.

It is not uncommon for a router to bottleneck traffic at high speeds. Be careful about using any fancy feature because it will disable the hardware nat assist and your speed will drop to about 250mbps when the traffic goes via the cpu.

May be better to just avoid the problem. Do you actually need a second router or are you just trying to get better wifi. You should be able to use the second router as a AP. The lan ports act as a simple switch so should not have any impact on your performance and you get the benefit of wifi without the router function getting in the way.

dadam191 · Jul 15, 2018

Here is the issue, I have the second router for better WIFI. My PC is hard wired into the second router, it’s not on WiFi. I’m getting 650 to 750 DL speeds and full 880 upload. When I take the hard wire out of the secondary modem and plug into the OC I get full DL/UL speeds.

bill001g · Jul 15, 2018

Then use the second router as a AP. You plug the incoming cable into the lan rather than the wan. turn off the dhcp and change the lan ip to not conflict with your main router. Your traffic will go between 2 lan ports which internally is just a small switch chip

dadam191 · Jul 16, 2018

bill001g :

dadam191 · Jul 16, 2018

So I turn off the DHCP, and switch the main cable from the Main Router to the secondary router WAN port to one of the LAN ports? So how would I make sure the IPs from the Main Router do not conflict?

bill001g · Jul 16, 2018

If the main router uses say 192.168.0.1 set the second router to 192.168.0.250 or some other address not in the dhcp pool of the first. In general high ip addresses are a safe bet. Most routers use 100-150 for the pool

dadam191 · Jul 23, 2018

So my netgear has AP mode, I am getting 639/247, which is even slower. Not sure what else to do here but buy a new router. Thoughts?

bill001g · Jul 24, 2018

When you run in AP mode and use the WAN port the traffic in most routers still passes through the cpu. You need to hook all the cables to the lan ports.

If you buy a new device a cheap switch will be a less expensive option for your needs. You can then plug your PC into the switch and the second router into the switch and only use it for wireless.

DarkRiddles · Jul 25, 2018

How did you get cat7, from my understanding it’s still in testing and being built around??

failboat · Jul 26, 2018

I'd recommend running a cable to your pc from router and another to AP. If you don't have enough ports then put router to switch and then everything into switch. cascading a switch is an option, but there is no reason to put switches all over the place to get two ports somewhere.

pctech2005 · Feb 9, 2019

bill001g, there is such thing as a gig crossover cable jut google it.

bill001g · Feb 10, 2019

pctech2005 :

Maybe you should read what you actually google. Gigabit transmits and receives on all 4 pair from both ends at the same time. The chipset manage to keep all the traffic separate it has nothing to do with the cable.

pctech2005 · Feb 10, 2019

http://pinoutguide.com/NetworkCables/1Gbcrossover_pinout.shtml

there it is

bill001g · Feb 10, 2019

pctech2005 :

I can google anything. Here is proof the earth is flat
https://wiki.tfes.org/The_Flat_Earth_Wiki

So why should I trust the site you linked. Anyone can make a web site and say anything they want.

So here are the official standard that show you are WRONG. Show me anything you have that is more official that these. Try to read some actual documents before you post garbage.

http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/tutorial/march98/mick_170398.pdf
https://www.csd.uoc.gr/~hy435/material/TIA-EIA-568-B.2.pdf

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