Computer keeps doing weird freezes on any load.

Benc12 · Jul 17, 2018

So i was playing resident evil 7 and the stuttering within the game was unbearable to play. I have the logitech 9g10 keyboard so i can see my computers usages at the moment im doing things. My VRAM was capped out. I google it and its common within the game because of the textures within the game are huge or something. I lowered the settings and i still see the same issues.

Not only that but i see stutters when doing things like watching a stream. I dont know whats going on or have any ideas on whats causing it. Nothing is capping out when the freezes start. I did set up an overclock which i thought could of been the issue. However, i removed all the overclock by setting it to default and then i uninstalled Afterburner. I was also told that if you set an overclock to high the card will just shut its self down to prevent damage.

Anyway if anybody could help and give some suggestions id appreciate it. My specs are:

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor i7-7700k (4.2GHz) 8MB Cache

Motherboard: ASUS® STRIX B250H GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs

Memory (RAM) 8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card 6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1060

1st Hard Disk 2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 3.5" SSHD

Power Supply CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 19, 2018

Hi, it could be thermal throttling (85+) or voltage instability. Download CPUID HWMonitor to monitor your temps. Flash the newest motherboard bios before doing this.

Run prime95, if you freeze/crash instantly, your CPU probably needs more voltage or you need to underclock a little. If you start lagging, you're thermal throttling. If nothing happens, we can move on to GPU.

Also, fix your CPU name. It's funny.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

Ive recently just upgraded from an i5 to i7 thats why lol.

First part of your message: Both my CPU and GPU stay under temperatures. Cpu 60-70 (game dependent) GPU 65-75 (again game dependent) Ive never seen them go much higher than this. I will monitor my Voltages, however, i have only just started seeing this issue? is this something that can just happen out of the blue? I also have the most current bios for my motherboard.

Can i actually underclock my CPU with this board? i heard a lot of people saying i couldnt overclock with it.

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

Stuttering can be caused by lots of things (Instability, Incompatible Drivers & Devices (like tethering phone), Equipment heat, Low power, ...). First of all, did you stress test with AIDA64 or Prime95? If it's your CPU, your system will start lagging fast.

Sorry didn't see that. No, you can't change the clock with non Z motherboards but you can change the voltage with "Intel Extreme Tuning Utility".

Also, keep your task manager (performance tab) open, when you start stuttering, see if anything was/is maxed (Like hard to RAM).

BTW, if you have power saving options enabled like Cool'N'Quiet or Eco mode, disable them. Some people have reported their antivirus causing problems after OC/CPU change too.

Make sure you have adequate cooling (couple of fans) on your case too, as other parts of motherboard heat up too.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

So when i started a stress test with prime95 and my CPU went to 100% utilization but my system took a while to start lagging. I was still able to do things with it being at 100% it was after a few minutes it started lagging. Infact that lagging only lasted a few seconds. The computer is still running fine. My CPU is currently at 72 degrees which it has never hit that before because the temps turned red instead of green/yellow on my phone. Im able to write these replies whilst the test is running with no issues. It also says that all the tests have passed.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

I have my PSU fan bringing air in. 2 fans on the front. A fan on the back. I did replace my 2 top fans with my new coolers radiator though.

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

I'm pretty sure something is happening here. Normally, you should have started stuttering immediately when you ran Prime95 and it maxed your CPU. Either it's 'System interrupts' caused by incompatibility with devices or incompatibility with other components of your PC but I'm thinking it's the latter.

Get AIDA64 Extreme. https://www.aida64.com/downloads

Stress test each component one by one, see when your stuttering the most. If it's not CPU, then the RAMs should be the culprits.
https://www.custompcreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/aida64-stress-testing-syber-vapor-xtreme-custom-pc-review.jpg

Edit 1: To rule out windows itself, stress test once with prime95 inside safe mode.

Also, use another KEYBOARD, I'm getting bad vibes from it and its monitoring app.

If we don't identify it after this, then I'm outta options.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

Out of curiosity could it be that my CPU is a lot more powerful than my GPU? Someone did say that this CPU would be bottlenecked by the GPU but i didnt think anything of it as its usually the otherway around?

The keyboard only starts monitoring if i plug my phone into it and i still see the stuttering even when my phone isnt in place. Ill stress test with the other program.

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

Out of curiosity could it be that my CPU is a lot more powerful than my GPU? Someone did say that this CPU would be bottlenecked by the GPU but I didn't think anything of it as its usually the other way around?

Your CPU is a lot more powerful than your GPU like mine (hover over my pic), but mine's not stuttering and neither should your's.

Core i7 CPUs especially K series are usually paired xx70+ GPUs as they can be overclocked extremely to match newer hardware (at least 0.5GHz and up to 1.0GHz or more). You can use 1080 Ti without bottlenecking your 7700k. You would bottleneck your RAM and HDD first. With today's standard, you usually need 16GB + SSD.

Also, if you don't have an SSD, buy one and install windows on it. They are one of the best upgrades you can make.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mPgPxr/a-data-ultimate-su800-128gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-128gt-c (300MB/s write) 2x your hdd
If you have want a better one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZNBrxr/samsung-960-evo-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6e250 (1200MB/s write) 8x your hdd

Reference:
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-960-Evo-NVMe-PCIe-M2-250GB-vs-Adata-Ultimate-SU800-128GB/m200373vs3911
http://hdd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Seagate-FireCuda-SSHD-2TB-2016-vs-Seagate-Barracuda-2TB-2016/3903vs3897

Games with huge amounts of files are bottlenecked hard by HDDs. Like Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

I think it will be my HDD then. Its only doing it on big games like GTA V, Resident evil (which has a lot of textures) more simple games like fortnite and overwatch dont see this problem. If i was to buy a SSD and only had windows would my games see a benefit even if they was on a HDD? (Im pretty new to PCs)

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

If i was to buy a SSD and only had windows would my games see a benefit even if they was on a HDD

You would, especially when your windows is doing something behind your back (like updating, disabling it won't work, it still updates).

It's easy to see if your hard is causing it or not by looking at windows task manager > performance tab. My HDD maxes out when copying files but windows stay's smooth cause it's separated.

If you don't have budget issues, you could buy a big SSD (250GB or more) for both windows and some games you might install from time to time. HDD is usually for movies, music and ...

Also, the 15s or faster boot is appreciated. (8s for mine)

BTW, I finished RS7 (the dad is creepiest) on HDD with Win on SSD but I never stuttered. Also, I remember it having VRAM issues (jumps from 4GB to 8GB+). It was discussed heavily online.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

Is that probably my issue then? Having just everything downloaded onto a SSHD

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

Is that probably my issue then? Having just everything downloaded onto a SSHD

If this happens when you stutter https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/performance-maintenance/30986d1485954334t-windows-10-100-disk-usage-every-5-seconds-hdd-usage-1.jpg, than yeah.

EDit: Of course, it can happen if you max your RAM or CPU too. Keep an eye on all of them.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

Ill keep an eye on it

norcalsc · Jul 20, 2018

You NEED 16gb ram.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

norcalsc :

The HDD doesnt spike when im stuttering all the time. It spikes sometimes but doesnt stay spiked for the full duration. The RAM has never capped at 100% utilized ever do i really need to upgrade it?

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

do i really need to upgrade it?

If you can, do it. Some games and programs (ie. video editing, photoshop, ...) require a lot. But it's not necessary.

Did you try stress testing and moving around in safe mood? I still don't know if it's caused by your parts or windows itself.
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10 Second way should be easiest.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

I think im going to upgrade my SSD before my RAM unless my RAM is causing the issue.

I stress tested my system and it there was no issues. It was running slower (but im pressuming that is normal) Booting in safe mode however i cannot get it done on my computer because i cannot remove the microsoft account. And the microsoft account has a password. Windows of course keep my account but dont accept the password so i cannot get into my computer in safe mode :/

(I dont know how to test the RAM on AIDA64 either?)

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

If you want to be absolutely sure about your RAM doing it job correctly, do this:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/14201-memtest86-test-ram.html

If it doesn't throw any errors, then it's working fine. 1 or 2 sessions should be fine. 8 is for masochists.

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

I checked RAM the other day through doing the process of typing in Mdsched into windows run command. Which saw no problems? will Memtest86 test anything different?

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

I checked RAM the other day through doing the process of typing in Mdsched into windows run command. Which saw no problems? will Memtest86 test anything different?

It good habit to test each component of a PC if you haven't done so before. Saves you a lot of trouble when the system starts failing later on.

Mdsched asks nicely. Memtest86 tortures the RAM to spit out its secrets (it's safe though).

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

Should i run it overnight? i ran it for 15 minutes then without a pass or error happening?

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

Should i run it overnight?

If you can, that would be for the best.
Also, Do your GPU OC again. There's no problem with OCing GPU. At most you crash your driver.
Reference: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3735667/gtx-970-safe-overclock.html

Benc12 · Jul 20, 2018

zebarjadi.raouf :

It seemed to cause more problems than benefits. I either got +10fps for crashing. Like GTA V would crash for opening the menu too many times. I didnt up the number by much either. If i lowered them anymore i doubt i would of even seen an improvement.

If the RAM is fine do you not know what could be causing this?

zebarjadi.raouf · Jul 20, 2018

If the RAM is fine do you not know what could be causing this?

Your RAM and CPU were tested. That leaves the GPU.

Did you test your GPU itself with some benchmarks like Furmark or Unigine?

If the problems started after your CPU upgrade, it could be windows itself not liking the sudden upgrade. A good excuse to buy an SSD and install fresh windows on it.

I didnt up the number by much either.

You should easily reach 100MHz. If you can't maybe your GPU isn't stable. Try maxing your power limit and underclocking 20-30MHz

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