Building a computer. Help?

zainpk60

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Guys I need advice on building a computer but it wont be for gaming but rather to do with IT work like running virtual machines, learning Linux and also learn ethical hacking and do cracking maybe but need a good PC. This will be my first one because I have a Hp laptop since 2012 and now its screaming to give that thing a break. Another thing is the below I have listed what I came up with and I also want something that will be strong enough to last for the next 10 years. Again I am not looking for a pure gaming PC but using virtual machines and ethical hacking. If it can go lower then it would be good but defo not more :) Thank you very much


CPU: Intel Core i7 8700
GPU: Evga Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
Hard drive: Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD
RAM: HyperX HX424C15FB2K2/16 16GB(2x8GB) 2400MHz DDR4 Memory
Motherboard: MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS Socket LGA 1151 DDR4 ATX
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED Turbo
Power Supply: Seasonic M12II EVO 520W Modular
 
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kanewolf

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Unless you have need for GPGPU I wouldn't buy a graphics card. Put the money into RAM if you are running VMs. I would think about an additional NIC card to allow your VMs to be physically separate on the network. If you want to do pen testing or anything like that separate NICs would be useful. I would probably also add another disk of some kind.
 

musrocs14

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Have you considered a Ryzen build? You would get more cores and that could be useful with data processing and what not. Agree with Kanewolf about another NIC to separate the VMs. RAM is probably the most important thing and if you are running multiple VMs you will need as much RAM as possible. 16 gb is decent but will start running out quick.
 

zainpk60

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Thanks for your reply and I really appreciate it and I think I wont buy a GPU now and probably get later on when needed. The reason why I needed it was that I planned on learning cracking passwords and stuff like that so ethical hacking but I guess it will take me time to learn so will get it later. Other then that can you spot any thing other thing or is it all good.

Here is the NIC that I want to get: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-T6E-Archer-Wireless-Antennas/dp/B013HCNTZU/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
 

zainpk60

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Thanks for your reply and yes i did considered it at first but after reading a lot of reviews and doing a lot of extensive research I found out that apparently I will have problems with running VMs and Linux on a AMD build because its not really used by a lot of companies and stuff like that. On the other hand Intel supports everything is very popular. Apart from that can you please tell if other things are good apart from the GPU.

 
Here's what I'd do:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor ($319.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg Business)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($290.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.85 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 560 - 1024 4GB LP OC Video Card ($129.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg Business)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.82 @ Amazon)
Total: $1114.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-25 11:37 EDT-0400
 

kanewolf

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I am not thinking of a wireless card. I am thinking of a four port wired card. Something like this -- https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-OEM-I350-T4-PCI-Express-Four-RJ45-Gigabit-Ports-Server-Adapter-NIC-USA/192554452742
You then assign your VMs to individual ports.
 

zainpk60

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Thanks for this but I have heard that AMD is not worth it and Intel are the best workstation and everything and Plus its more popular. But anyways thanks for the suggestion
 

zainpk60

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Thanks for the reply but can you also please tell me what do you mean by assigning VMs to individual because I have just started to know them as I am doing CompTIA A+ so learning them.
 


Well what you've heard then is lies. The R7 will beat the i7 on workstation loads easily and is much better value.
 

zainpk60

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Will the AMD motherboard and Ryzen 7 2700x will work with the VMs and can they also be sued for hacking and cracking passwords and learn ethical hacking. Or will this Ryzen 7 CPU fit the motherboard suggest above. Thanks

 


VMs will work totally fine as it has AMD-V for running virtual machines. As for hacking, to my knowledge it generally doesn't require that much power although decoding passwords does take quite a bit of power and i'd imagine that the R7 is faster than the i7 by a pretty large margin due to vastly superior encoding and decoding speeds.
 
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