CoolerMaster MA410p for Overclocking.

frostmouth2 · Aug 2, 2018

I have purchased a CM MA410p Air Cooler. I want to overclock my new 8600k to 5 Ghz. Chassis model is CM K500L. Will MA410p be good enough to overclock 8600k to 5Ghz? There are no other brands like Noctua, NZXT etc here so I picked this up. I heard 8600k runs cooler than 8700k on max.

feelinfroggy777 · Aug 2, 2018

It will really depend on the chip. Some will require less voltage to get 5ghz and some will require more. The more voltage, the higher the temps and the need for better cooling. The MA410p is not the best air cooler on the market. It only has heat pipes (6 is preferred) and it has a 120mm fan.

With that being said, it is not a terrible CPU cooler either. So it may be fine if you have a good chip. But if you don't have a good chip and require more than 1.35 volts to hit 5ghz, then it may get a little toasty.

The 8600k is a hot CPU. It will run a little cooler than the 8700k because it is not hyperthreaded, but that wont make a huge difference in temps. Especially at 5ghz.

Lastly, you are not guaranteed to get 5ghz overclock for a daily driver. I have overclocked 2 8700k's and could not get 5ghz with temps and voltage that was comfortable enough for me to run all the time. So 4.9 may be a more reasonable target.

frostmouth2 · Aug 2, 2018

feelinfroggy777 :

How about another 120mm fan on its backside. Cannot rely on silicon lottery alone. In fact I have never overclocked anything in my entire life. So how much volts and maximum temperature should be there to be on the safer side on daily basis? Which method to use to measure test the temps and voltages?

feelinfroggy777 · Aug 2, 2018

You can add another 120mm fan, but the heatpipes is really where the heat transfer takes place. They can only pull so much heat out.

For me, I don't want my volts to be over 1.35 and average load temps over 80C for daily use. Since you have already bought it, I would not worry too much about it. Hook it up and overclock the chip. See what you come up with as your temps may be good.

For overclocking, download Cinebench r15 and Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU). Open both programs in windowed mode. You want to monitor your temps through XTU and run your bench through Cinebench. Run a bench at stock speeds and write down the score. That is your baseline.

Then restart your computer and go into you bios. Change the CPU frequency multiplier to 50 (50 X 100 = 5000mhz) and change your v-core to 1.3 volts. Save and boot your computer. If it crashes, then up the voltage to 1.31. Run the bench and watch your temps through XTU. Spikes over 80C is fine, but when the temp levels out, I don't like it over 80C.

Keep upping the voltage in .01 increments until you get to 1.35 or you are able to run a stable bench. Don't worry about breaking your CPU. It is harder than you think. CPUs downclock to prevent damage at 100C. If you get temps that go to 90C, then stop the bench, reboot and adjust voltage. Just go slow in .01 increments and you will do fine.

frostmouth2 · Aug 2, 2018

feelinfroggy777 :

You can add another 120mm fan, but the heatpipes is really where the heat transfer takes place. They can only pull so much heat out.

For me, I don't want my volts to be over 1.35 and average load temps over 80C for daily use. Since you have already bought it, I would not worry too much about it. Hook it up and overclock the chip. See what you come up with as your temps may be good.

For overclocking, download Cinebench r15 and Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU). Open both programs in windowed mode. You want to monitor your temps through XTU and run your bench through Cinebench. Run a bench at stock speeds and write down the score. That is your baseline.

Then restart your computer and go into you bios. Change the CPU frequency multiplier to 50 (50 X 100 = 5000mhz) and change your v-core to 1.3 volts. Save and boot your computer. If it crashes, then up the voltage to 1.31. Run the bench and watch your temps through XTU. Spikes over 80C is fine, but when the temp levels out, I don't like it over 80C.

Keep upping the voltage in .01 increments until you get to 1.35 or you are able to run a stable bench. Don't worry about breaking your CPU. It is harder than you think. CPUs downclock to prevent damage at 100C. If you get temps that go to 90C, then stop the bench, reboot and adjust voltage. Just go slow in .01 increments and you will do fine.

Thanks alot Sir. Highly appreciated. Here in my country (Pakistan) people are scared to overclock and they think that Overclocking will make your CPU go SuperNova. I will try and stay in touch just in case. Thanks again!

frostmouth2 · Aug 2, 2018

feelinfroggy777 :

You can add another 120mm fan, but the heatpipes is really where the heat transfer takes place. They can only pull so much heat out.

For me, I don't want my volts to be over 1.35 and average load temps over 80C for daily use. Since you have already bought it, I would not worry too much about it. Hook it up and overclock the chip. See what you come up with as your temps may be good.

For overclocking, download Cinebench r15 and Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (XTU). Open both programs in windowed mode. You want to monitor your temps through XTU and run your bench through Cinebench. Run a bench at stock speeds and write down the score. That is your baseline.

Then restart your computer and go into you bios. Change the CPU frequency multiplier to 50 (50 X 100 = 5000mhz) and change your v-core to 1.3 volts. Save and boot your computer. If it crashes, then up the voltage to 1.31. Run the bench and watch your temps through XTU. Spikes over 80C is fine, but when the temp levels out, I don't like it over 80C.

Keep upping the voltage in .01 increments until you get to 1.35 or you are able to run a stable bench. Don't worry about breaking your CPU. It is harder than you think. CPUs downclock to prevent damage at 100C. If you get temps that go to 90C, then stop the bench, reboot and adjust voltage. Just go slow in .01 increments and you will do fine.

Well on the brighter side. Which corsair or cooler master AIO will you suggest that wont break the bank and get the job done smoothly in this range?

rubix_1011 · Aug 2, 2018

I compared the MA410M (4 heatpipes) vs. the MA620P (6 heatpipes)...guess which one performs better?

The MA410M.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-masterair-ma410m-tuf-gaming-edition,5686.html

frostmouth2 · Aug 2, 2018

rubix_1011 :

So there are chances that my MA410p can let overclock my 8600k to 5Ghz smoothly and safely on a CM K500L Casing?

rubix_1011 · Aug 2, 2018

I also reviewed that cooler: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooler-master-masterair-ma410p-cpu-cooler-review,5478.html

It actually did pretty well on the Tom's Hardware 6-core i7 5930K, so I would assume a 6-core i5 8600k would be possible, but the majority of the limitation isn't the cooler - it's your overclocking capability, quality of your CPU, and the rest of your hardware.

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