2 networks (2 different routers) in one household

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Hi, I'm wondering if I can get a second internet router and network, completely different to the one already in the house, currently Virgin media are the ISP for the other network and I'm wondering whether I can get my own separate network, possibly from the same ISP to work.
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I suppose, what is the goal?

If you want separate internet service, usually ISPs will only allow one line per household. But you can always get service from another provider if available.

If you just want two networks you could set one up by plugging another router in the ISPs modem/router or your own router. Then you set up separate networks either by IP range or MAC address filtering. Fairly high level, but I'm not sure why you would want this.
 
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Hello mate, thanks for answering. And the reason is the current network gets throttled because there are so many devices using it and because of this we often get knocked off and given a no Internet access warning on windows. And since me and my partner currently can't afford to move we thought this would be an easier solution, hence I asked the question. So you're saying ISPs often only allow one overall network on one address?
 
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Sounds like you don't need another network, just more bandwidth from your ISP. That would be a question for them if they can increase your bandwidth.

If you get a second ISP, you will need a router that has load balancing (basically two+ internet ports)

The other way would be to treat them as separate networks and get a modem/router from each ISP. WiFi can be an issue here since they would be in close proximity on the same frequency. If they offer 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz you can turn on or the other off to keep them really separate. If they are both 2.4Ghz then you would want to change the channel they broadcast on. IDs 1-12 usually, commonly defaults to six, you don't want both on six.
 
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So why don't you upgrade your current service or see if there is a business class of server you can purchase they tend to cost a bit more but they should not be shared and you should get the speeds you pay for. However you should be getting slow internet not "kicked off" unless you have so many devices that your router can't keep up. In that case you should look at upgrading your router to a more robust model.
 
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Listen guys. I get what you're saying but I don't think you quite understand what I'm getting at. We have no access to the the settings of this network. We currently have access to it to use the Internet. But no way of accessing the router since its not our network. We don't own it.
And what I mean by being 'kicked off' is there isn't enough bandwidth to maintain all 4 PCs and mobile devices on the one network. Not to forget 2 of the 4 PCs have 10g networking so they swallow the bandwidth more than anything. Thankyou for your replies. All I am asking is if it's possible to get our own network so we don't have to keep getting agitated by having little to no Internet bandwidth access.
 
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No I don't understand you've basically re-stated that the problem is bandwidth. Are you saying you are sharing this internet with another group at the same address? If you have a separate address, contact an ISP for service. If you have a single address for both parties, contact a Different ISP and ask for service.

If you aren't in communication with the owners of the internet service you are using, not really sure what advice you are expecting to receive. Only someone in control of the service could change the bandwidth allocation to each end device.

You aren't going to be able to inject a separate network into the system that will gain you control of a subset of the bandwidth. That would be something done at the router level.
 
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