I bought a fake card ch.vga from ebay, I know... I know... some expert advice needed

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Hello,
Thanks for your time! A bit ;TLDR

I already asked some of these stuff on techpowerup and the guy were very helpful, but somehow I haven't received what I hoped. Maybe I will never have.

------- Prelude

1.) The ebay listing said: gtx 1050 with 2 Gigs. Fore GBP 47 about 60 USD. (too good to be true, so not true). Huge mistake: I was tempted, so I bought it. (I am ready to accept my loss, but not without a fight).

2.) About 3 days later (wrong order, I know), I googled fake cards. Boy, there are tons of videos on youtube, and forum topics. So I was pretty sure, I was scammed as well (thanks to my dumb self).
No D-Sub connector on GTX 1050s, but mine had...

3.) I ordered a ch341a usb bios flash with clip&cable, to avoid desoldering the eprom. (about 5 USD the whole stuff)

4.) The item arrived, I removed the fan, and yes, it had only 4 pieces of H5GC2H24BFR-T2C
SK Hynix memory (meaning 1 Gigs of GDDR5, not two gigs), and the little chinese hands somehow removed the GPU ID, so nothing says what kind of GPU this one is. No GF116 or GF108 or anything. The GPU became unidentifiable (for me at least), the youtube videos didn't tell this...

5.) However I found some handwritings on the frame around the GPU saying GF116-chinese letter-chinese letter-192/128. My guess: GF116, something, 128 bit bandwidth and 192 something.
The GF116 narrows down the GPU to GTX 550 Ti and GTS 450 Ti and GT 630 and some mobile GPUs (it is not).

6.) I claimed a dispute on my PayPal account, PayPal sent an answer, they'll investigate it within 3 business days, so somewhere next week. Within 30 days I'll know something if I lost the money (as I deserve) or not. (but the faker does not deserve it anyway)

------- The struggle

1.) In the meantime, I received the bios flasher, downloaded the software and went ahead.

2.) I still didn't identified properly the GPU, so I've downloaded 8 different GTX 550 Ti BIOSes, and 2 GTS 450 BIOSes

3.) I red the original BIOS content, and in the ch341a's software I could see that it really lies GTX 1050 about itself. I saved it, just in case.

4.) I tried to burn the BIOSes I've downloaded from TechPowerUp. Maybe the ch341a is not a reliable F18-A fighterbomber, so many times it was able to write the BIOSes, but when I tried to verify it said: "chip with the contents are in disagreement", and when I red back the chip content I could really see, that bytes are changed... :p

5.) Out of nothing I was able to burn and verify a GainWard GTX550 Ti BIOS. Holly cow!
I was happy, I put the card in.

6.) It booted like charm, desktop came in, I downloaded the official nvidia driver pack, installed it, it recognized the GTX 550 Ti, and finished.

7.) However... GPU-Z said: 768 Mbytes of ram... (there are clearly 4 drams are installed on the board, all 256 Mbytes)... So I probably have a faulty ram.

8.) I played Team Fortress 2, and it hung within a minute... Something is wrong. (all 2D, like youtube, browsing, windows desktop are just fine).

9.) I erased, reburnt (or at least I was trying to reburn) different images, I even tried a GTS 450 image, with 512 Mbytes (to try to limit the memory size the card communicates to the OS), but many time, even the booting was broken (flickering screen etc.), or the card was simply bricked, no video. Important: all these images were written without being able to verify.

10.) Somehow, I was able to verify back, the ORIGINAL image (that came with the card, and lies about itself). WIth this image, TF2 and Orcs Must Die 2 ran like charm (for half-half hour), no hung. But these are not very costly games, older engines. So I tried CS:GO, and it crashed when I would get the HUD. I didn't expect it to work: this BIOS says it has 2 Gigs, and probably the game tries to use it.

Has anybody wider experience on this field? (I am a senior software engineer, not really a HW guy, and one thing I know for sure, I know nothing about these stuff)

My questions:
1-> ch341a are really this unreliable, or I am doing something wrong?
2-> How on earth could I identify the GPU without the raster-printed GPU ID (like GF116-400-1A for example: this one is totally blank on the GPU)
3-> How could I test the rams in the GPU?

I know I know: the best advice is that I should have stayed away from eBay chinese fake VGA-s, when they cost the half of the original.

Thanks in advance!
KR,
Peter

 
GPU-Z "should" tell you what the actual card is, but even then if they've had access to reprogramming equipment it may still tell you that it's something other than what it actually is.

You knew the chances you were taking, and you got de-boned. It is what it is. Contacting ebay about fake card sales is probably your only path, and they should be notified about that seller anyhow so they don't continue selling fake crap to other people. It's like reporting burglars breaking into your neighbors house. Sometimes you have a moral obligation to do it.
 
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Thanks, I know that GPU-Z reads what the card's BIOS says to it. It says, it is a GTX 1050 with 2 Gigs, when it is not.
When I changed the BIOS to GainWard GTX 550 Ti with 1 Gig, it said it was that (except that it said: 768 Mbytes are there....).

I accepted that I let myself get roasted, but I still regard it as a learning curve (for BIOS flashing and GPU architecture), and I think there is a possibility to put a correct or at least a useable BIOS to this card. It is functional, but I have to choose the proper BIOS. (maybe the DRAM is faulty, who knows).

I notified eBay.
 
I guess I missed that part in your first post. Since you've already identified the GPU chip used, and have successfully implemented a bios, what exactly is it that you are still looking to know, or to do? Sorry I skipped over that part or just went past me, the first time around.
 
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My problem is that a handwritten GF116 on the GPU frame does not identify the chip.
I am not able to identify it precisely, that's why I am here. And also, that's hand writing, including chinese characters could be something wrong too.

My questions were:
1-> ch341a are really this unreliable, or I am doing something wrong?
2-> How on earth could I identify the GPU without the raster-printed GPU ID (like GF116-400-1A for example: this one is totally blank on the GPU)
3-> How could I test the rams in the GPU?

What I guess right now, that my VGA is probably a GF116 (GTX 550, GTS 450 or GT630, or any revisions) with a defective ram. So, it was a good buy...

But I still try to find it out, that maybe, if I'd knew the exact GPU and I could have a BIOS with LESS ram (unfortunatelly, seemingly, only GTS450 was manufactured with less ram than 1Gigs, I might(!) be able to revive the card, to a limited use.

I am newbie in this area (contrary to any degree, or work experience),so that's why I am trying to ask the community in the most hardware focused sites.
 

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The most likely reason you're having issues is the chip is likely not even an actual 550ti chip. Its very likely cloned based on its age and that Nvidia probably wouldn't put the effort in to protect their IP. There likely is some vagrancies in the quality of the chip that is not allowing it to run properly. Keep in mind it was made so it would boot in 2D, identify, and install drivers. They had no intention of you actually using and enjoying this piece of garbage hence the issues you are seeing. The memory may not even be real SK Hynix memory chips. They clone literally everything in China. My former company makes the machines that make LEDs and DRAM chips (among other things), multi million dollar machines. In China they literally cloned our machines.

Get your money back from eBay and toss it in the trash, its garbage.
 
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Thanks guys, I think that's going to be. Yesterday I asked eBay to "step in".
In the meantime I also get a case at PayPal (gosh, their processes are dumb as f*, every time an other person replies, knowing nothing of the ongoing case...)