low-end OC build

Gordez · Aug 30, 2018

AMD - Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6GHz OCed to 3.9
G.Skill Aegis DDR4-2400 2x4GB OCed to 3000mhz (or 2933mhz)
EVGA - BR 500W 80+ Bronze Certified

Gigabyte - B450M DS3H
i wanna know how these components work with each other. how reliable motherboard and PSU models are?

kanewolf · Aug 30, 2018

If you are buying 2400 RAM, why do you believe you will be able to successfully get it to run at 2933?

Gordez · Aug 30, 2018

kanewolf :

i've read and seen a lot of videos/comments showing and saying overclocking ram up to 30-50%. what is your point

kanewolf · Aug 30, 2018

Just an expectation question... I would never buy hamburger and expect it to compare to steak. A vendor sells 2400Mhz RAM because they couldn't get the products to pass quality to sell them at a higher clock speed, IMO. Expecting a significant boost over what a vendor rates is not how I approach hardware purchases.

Gordez · Aug 30, 2018

kanewolf :

give me specific explanation about oc and what I need to know for safe and smooth oc. I stated my question very clear. literally every youtuber proves your point wrong

larrycumming · Aug 30, 2018

Don’t put too much stock into what a video says. Ram module performance will vary among different batches from the same model numbers. It also varies among memory chip used. Even the ram stick makers say so themselves. Sometimes you got a lucky batch sometimes not so.

If ram sticks of a model number are all identical then nobody would sell dual or quad channel kits because you just buy two/four sticks from the same model number and expect them to be identical.

bmockeg · Aug 30, 2018

To answer your question with a question, if the manufacturer could clock it higher and sell it for more, why wouldn't they? Yes, you can overclock RAM, but you can literally pay like $15 at the most and buy faster RAM. Why would you hang your hopes on possibly overclocking and the possible memory errors that come with it?

Gordez · Aug 31, 2018

larrycumming :

ok, what am I supposed to do? or am I completely depending on luck?

larrycumming · Aug 31, 2018

Gordez :

well you can go ahead buy the ram and try to overclock it to 2933. if it holds that is great for you, if it wont then you can still run it at 2400 or perhaps 2600/2666. just don't expect a sure thing when you OC beyond manufacturer spec.

I had a kit which was rated at 2800 but the XMP came with 3000 profile. Sometimes you have to check the data sheets to see whats offered by XMP. however running at 3000 did not give me better memory benchmark in aida.

Gordez · Aug 31, 2018

larrycumming :

Gordez :

well you can go ahead buy the ram and try to overclock it to 2933. if it holds that is great for you, if it wont then you can still run it at 2400 or perhaps 2600/2666. just don't expect a sure thing when you OC beyond manufacturer spec.

I had a kit which was rated at 2800 but the XMP came with 3000 profile. Sometimes you have to check the data sheets to see whats offered by XMP. however running at 3000 did not give me better memory benchmark in aida.

yes, i checked and a lot of rams support only intel mobos. is there anything beyond motherboard manufacturer claiming that it supports certain type of ram up to certain clock speed?

Gordez · Aug 31, 2018

bmockeg :

DUDE, your point is irrelevant. problem isn't paying 10$ more THERE ARE A LOT I NEED TO KNOW BESIDE THAT. people have trouble even with pro gaming mobos, with 3200 stock clocked rams, so they had to underclock it to 2400mhz and i don't wanna be in their place?! if you have something to help me and other people who see this post with, then speak up.

larrycumming · Aug 31, 2018

Gordez :

larrycumming :

yes, i checked and a lot of rams support only intel mobos. is there anything beyond motherboard manufacturer claiming that it supports certain type of ram up to certain clock speed?

for ryzen you'd better go with your motherboard manufacturer's QVL just to be safe both for performance and reliability.

for intel compatibility is much better so you don't have to go by the board's qvl list.

Gordez · Aug 31, 2018

larrycumming :

Gordez :

for ryzen you'd better go with your motherboard manufacturer's QVL just to be safe both for performance and reliability.

for intel compatibility is much better so you don't have to go by the board's qvl list.

i wasn't able to find those QVLs. though i see in ram specs which motherboards are they compatible with
(EDIT: nevermind i was able to find it!)
is there something i should be aware of while overclocking? and what is difference between motherboards. why would i get 120$ motherboard if 70$ one has same specs?

bmockeg · Aug 31, 2018

One reason is more expensive motherboards typically have more features, some most people never use. They also may have better voltage regulators for overclocking. Cheap boards aren't recommended for overclocking usually because they have cheap VRM without heatsink.

Also, did you know that if you use only 8gb of RAM with 2400G CPU, it will only get about 50-60% of its max framrate? To max the onboard graphics you need 16gb of RAM.

larrycumming · Aug 31, 2018

Gordez :

In short, you get what you pay for. The more expensive ones will have better electronic components and more features such as wifi, dual network ports, bigger heatsinks, sli, glowing lights ,etc., so you should consider your needs on top of price.

For overclocking, a good place to start is look at what type of VRM it has. Generally cheap motherboards start with 5 or 6 phase VRMs. While some of them can be used to achieve modest acceptable overclocks, the results won't be the greatest because as you increase clockspeed vdroop becomes a factor for failed overclocks. The better tuned mobos are better at achieving stable currents needed for high overclocks.

However generally you don't need that much overclock. Squeezing the last 0.2Ghz out of a CPU isn't going to make that much difference for most people's everyday gaming use. The primary reason for me to get a better board would be stability and hoping that it leads to longebity of all the components in the system.

Gordez · Aug 31, 2018

larrycumming :

my oc intentions are listed above. i dont even have problem running cpu at stock speed as it gives more room for igpu oc. BUT i looked over the QVL lists and im frustrated. every single compatible ram with b450 motherboards are either 16-32gb kits or are at 2400mhz. that basically means i can't have 8gb ram at more than 2400mhz? someone explain

bmockeg · Aug 31, 2018

Probably because as I have already stated, 2200g and 2400g need 16GB of RAM to get full benefit. You are going to lose a minimum of 40%FPS with 8GB. Your best bet for compatibility is to buy a 8GB set of the same type listed on QVL.

larrycumming · Sep 1, 2018

Gordez :

it depends on which b450 motherboard you're looking at. for example, MSI b450m mortar has a lot of 4G, 8G memory kits listed under its memory QVL.

just gotta shop around

Gordez · Sep 1, 2018

bmockeg :

another quote without explanation. ram size doesnt effect performance its dual channel,high clock speed and chip

larrycumming · Sep 1, 2018

consult this article for ryzen shared memory explanations
https://www.techspot.com/article/1578-amd-raven-ridge-reserved-memory-explainer/

personally I was fine with 8gb running in dual channel mode, on an intel z170 platform with a discrete graphics card, but for ryzen apu you might want to go the extra mile for 16gb dual channel.

16 is pretty standard nowadays, many people I know have upgraded to 32g

Gordez · Sep 1, 2018

larrycumming :

i dont know thats really stupid. 16 gigs are good but i dont need them. maybe ill wait black friday fuck

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