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jorgesgsa

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Please, someone help me here! I've been trying to build a new PC but I've limited knowledge on this. Anyway, decided to search and investigate and I made this build:

[PCPartPicker part list](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/zPQDnH) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/zPQDnH/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/LHYWGX/intel-core-i...) | €180.90 @ PC Componentes
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/PgQG3C/gigabyte-b36...) | €77.00 @ Amazon Espana
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/HBjWGX/corsair-memo...) | €89.99 @ Amazon Espana
**Video Card** | [MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/x7Jkcf/msi-geforce-...) | €184.90 @ PC Componentes
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **€532.79**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-09-05 11:50 CEST+0200 |

My budget is somewhat limited (don't want to go over 800€). I'm building it to play some games, mainly RTS like CKII, EU4 - of course, I'm trying to make it somewhat recent so I can play the new releases of those games. I also like some RPG's (like Skyrim, Dragon Age, etc) but I don't mind giving up in some graphic detail in those games because I value most performance than visuals. I'm also a image editing hobbyist (Adobe CC, mainly Photoshop and Lightroom) so I also took that into consideration but I'm not a professional xD

As you can see, it's not finished. Still missing some important things like: - CPU Cooler - Storage - Case - Power supply - Sound card (I don't know if I need one or does any of the components that I already have comes with it)

I admit that with my limited knowledge I'm afraid that my choices would't be the best so I ask you your opinion about:


-The best choice for the missing things, taking into consideration my budget?

- Would you recommend a cheaper build for the same purposes?

- Regarding my reasons to build the PC and my budget, would you change anything in my build (i.e: motherboard, CPU, GPU, RAM) ?


Also, I din't mention but I have the other peripherals (keyboard, mouse, monitor) so that leaves them ou of the budget.

Thank you for your help.
 
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I believe the i5-8400 does have a stock cooler, but Intel stock coolers are generally perceived as being not good.

If I understand StoreMI correctly it's a feature which improves loading times using an SSD to help with caching data. It's certainly a nice feature to have. AMD's page: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

I personally have an SSD, and two HDDs (one for games, one for other media). It really depends on 'data management' as it were. With Windows 10's frequent updates it may fill up an SSD boot drive quicker. An HDD can certainly be added in easily if you do find you're running low on the SSD.

As for RAM and VRAM.... I think of it as one of those things which don't really matter until you run out of it. For...
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Obakasama

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Odd a build thread doesn't get the attention of resident builders.... Motherboards have sound outputs so a sound card isn't necessary. Guess I'll list the additions I've made to yours and wait for others to respond:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€180.90 @ PC Componentes)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€41.31 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: MSI - B360M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€72.91 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€139.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€45.40 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card (€184.90 @ PC Componentes)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€55.91 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€64.32 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €785.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 18:15 CEST+0200

Depending on your editing needs I chose 16GB of RAM. This could be lowered back to 8GB and you should have enough for an SSD for the OS (which I assume you have accounted for).

And just for fun on my part:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (€165.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€72.06 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: G.Skill - FORTIS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€146.82 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€61.22 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€45.40 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card (€172.00 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€55.91 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€64.32 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €783.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-06 18:29 CEST+0200

As mentioned, wait for others to respond.
 
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jorgesgsa

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Hi. Thank you for your answer and your help. I hoped there were more people replying but ok, maybe it is better to have few opinions so I don't get confused.
As for your thoughts, well, I haven't accounted the SSD. Maybe I'll replace the HDD you suggested and If I need more storage in the future I buy an external.
- my editing needs are not very demanding because it's an hobby and I don't have much time so maybe I'll sitck to 8GB RAM and if I need I'll upgrade in the future.
As for your bulid, is it for a profile like mine (gaming and image editing)? Overall what do you think of mine besides the RAM?
Also, I see you didn't include a cooler on your build, any reason?
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (€165.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€117.12 @ Amazon Espana)
Memory: ADATA - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3333 Memory (€93.36 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€44.58 @ Amazon Espana)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card (€255.49 @ Amazon Espana)
Case: RIOTORO - CR500 ATX Mid Tower Case (€54.92 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€59.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit (€45.39 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €836.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-07 05:49 CEST+0200

2600 includes a stock cooler. Should be enough if you don't overclock and leave it to auto.

The B450 board has storemi feature. Use 1gb of ram and 250gb of ur hdd to Fuze it into a faster drive.

Only thing you might have to buy later is a case fan. I would suggest you to have it full - 2 front intakes and a rear exhaust.
 
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To me the balance for an editing PC depends on the software being used. I think certain software run better on Intel CPUs due to limited core/thread usage and more reliant on clockspeed (or IPC (instructions per clock) to be precise). AMD's Ryzen typically has more core/threads for its price and generally favours multi-tasking and content creation (really handy for me in Blender).

If the editing aspect is a hobby and isn't as important, then I would suggest Intel over AMD.
 
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First of all, thank you both.
I'm not planning to OC so, for now It should be good with the CPU cooler. Does the 8400 have a cooler?

I see both of you have chosen the same processor, maybe I'll do that.

I didn't understando what do you mean by "The B450 board has storemi feature. Use 1gb of ram and 250gb of ur hdd to Fuze it into a faster drive."

Is it better to go for a better GPU and less RAM or a balance between both?

I'm sorry for my questions as they might sound basic but as I said, my knowledge is limited.

Also, besides the SSD for the system, is it really necessary to have another storage (imagine I'll only be using 100 GB of personal data and programs)?

I came up with this:
[PCPartPicker part list](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/6fsnXP) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/6fsnXP/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox) | €165.90 @ Amazon Espana
**Motherboard** | [ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/LLYLrH/asrock-b450m-hdv-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-hdv) | €73.42 @ Amazon Espana
**Memory** | [Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/7KNv6h/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-2400-memory-cmk8gx4m2d2400c14) | €94.51 @ Amazon Espana
**Storage** | [Seagate - Barracuda Compute 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/zmKcCJ/seagate-barracuda-compute-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-stgs250401) | €80.59 @ Amazon Espana
**Video Card** | [XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yybkcf/xfx-radeon-rx-580-4gb-gts-xxx-edition-video-card-rx-580p4dfd6) | €255.49 @ Amazon Espana
**Case** | [Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZHmxFT/fractal-design-focus-g-black-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-bk-w) | €55.91 @ Amazon Espana
**Power Supply** | [Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/3hkwrH/corsair-power-supply-cp9020102na) | €59.90 @ Amazon Espana
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **€785.72**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2018-09-07 16:19 CEST+0200 |
 
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I believe the i5-8400 does have a stock cooler, but Intel stock coolers are generally perceived as being not good.

If I understand StoreMI correctly it's a feature which improves loading times using an SSD to help with caching data. It's certainly a nice feature to have. AMD's page: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/store-mi

I personally have an SSD, and two HDDs (one for games, one for other media). It really depends on 'data management' as it were. With Windows 10's frequent updates it may fill up an SSD boot drive quicker. An HDD can certainly be added in easily if you do find you're running low on the SSD.

As for RAM and VRAM.... I think of it as one of those things which don't really matter until you run out of it. For example, if you run out of VRAM then textures may not load when playing a game. If you run out of RAM in Blender then it crashes to desktop. So depending on needs it's a balance between the two when working with a budget.

EDIT: Build seems fine. I will mention the GTX 1060 6GB trades places with the RX 580 depending on the game. Depending on prices the 1060 could be considered as well.
 
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