General info, help with coverclocking i7-4770K

cyrustheviruz1

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Hello, I'm throwing out some overclock questions/help to something kinda outdated... yet still a pretty awesome system.. I'll start by giving you my cad work/gaming pc specs:

Core i7-4770k on an Asus z97-a usb 3.0 mainboard
GTX 1070 Founder's edition 8GB SLI
16GB Corsair dominator DDR3-2133mhz ram
corsair 240gb SSD, 480GB sandisk SSD
1 TB seagate barracuda HDD, 250 GB WD blue HDD
EVGA 750 GQ PSU, Corsair H100i water cooler, 4 additional 120mm fans

Long story short, it's a pretty good machine with very good cooling and temperature is never my issue while overclocking, getting the overclock stable however is. Right now i have 2 cores @ 4.3 GHZ, 2 @ 4.2GHZ with the cache @ 4.1GHZ, manual core voltage @ 1.275V and cache set to manual 1.275V. Every time I try to go all cores 4.3 or 4.4 I get a whea logging error blue screen. I've reseated the cpu and everything in my machine, I've tried overclock through Ai suite and bios, I uninstalled ai suite and just did OC through bios and every time same result. I read that upping the voltage to 1.3 and beyond is dangerous and could ruin my cpu. So I guess my questions are: A. is there any safe way to get all cores to 4.3 and maybe beyond without ruining my chip? B. Do i have to put voltage on auto or adaptive, is it safe to keep on manual at 1.275? since the machine is stable and passes AIDA64 tests, CPU ID bench, furmark cpu test and I can rock any game I want, do my Auto cad work and everything is great. If this is the highest safe, stable level I can get then I'm cool with it, but if it's possible I want to hang with cool kids at 4.3, 4.4, 4.5.... if it's not asking too much out of life. Thank you, I appreciate any response, everytime I have to look up pc stuff, hardware, how tos I always come here and I trust your guy's opinion
 

zebarjadi.raouf

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Voltage is safe up to 1.300v as long as you keep it cooler than 80c. Also, above 1.300v is not dangerous immediately, it's too damn hot.

Save your BIOS profile.
Reset BIOS.
Update BIOS to the latest version.
Manually set your voltage to what you're comfortable while testing..
Enable LLC (Load Line Calibration/VDroop offset). 50% or the equivalent is what I recommend.
Overclock one at a time. First Core then Cache.
After everything is stable, start lowering voltage until it's not. then up it by .005v or .010v.


As for putting it on adaptive, configure it so your max adaptive voltage is equal to manual.
For example: 1.275v is stable
Adaptive + 0.050v = 1.275v

Keeping it on manual is safe but not recommended.
 

cyrustheviruz1

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Thank you for answering. The Bios is on the latest stable version, the only one higher is a beta bios, I tried it when I first changed the chip out and it wasn't stable even at stock speeds, so I'm cool there. I'm going to do the LLC thing you're mentioning and see if that can get me higher, if not I will leave it where I'm at and do the adaptive voltage, I'll post my experience.
 

cyrustheviruz1

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so i haven't been on here for awhile, I tried everything you said to do, I need 1.280 or better voltage to get to 4.2ghz and it to be stable. If i then enable adaptive voltage it then either goes crazy high like 1.375 or it doesnt give it enough and the pc resets. I can go 4.3 ghz but it takes 1.35 voltage to get there and benchmarking will throw it over 80c but not gaming or autocad or anything else i do. I'm too paranoid to do 1.35, i've settled on putting on constant 1.280 V and OCing to 4.2 when i'm playing a demanding game then lowering it back to normal (default v @ 4.0 ghz) I also for like 5 mins, just to see if i could, went to 4.4, but that took 1.385v so i turned it back down. Am i just unlucky with the OC on this chip or is there other things i can do? My mom keeps bugging me about what i want for christmas and I'm tempted to tell her to track me down a devil's canyon for this pc lol
 
Well, let's see, im using the same CPU, and something is looking very wrong there with you playing with 1.275v for 4.3ghz... I get that with 1.210v running extremely cool.

also cache nearing 1.3v? woah man, thats a lot of heat.

whats your current input voltage?

on your shoes i'd do this.

Reset the bios:
1. Set CPU ratio to fixed and change it to 43 wich means 4300mhz
2. Set Vcore to override mode and set to 1.225V
3. Set cpu input voltage to 1.8v
4. leave ring ratio to 3.900mhz
5. set ring voltage to 1.100v

Boot and see.
 

cyrustheviruz1

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ill try it, no my cache is at 1.2v manual, ive reset bios, ive tried so many things, never the input voltage stuff so ill see. I've spent hours upon hours reading about this and im convinced that i have a crappy chip, we shall see. Thanks, I'll let you know. By the way i have a corsair h100i liquid cooler, my temps arent really the problem, just the amount of voltage it seems to take
 

cyrustheviruz1

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nope, didnt work, didnt work on 1.25v either, 42 works on 1.25v now which is awesome, but nope, 43 aint nothin doin, i appreciate the advice though. quite honestly (because i can write it off my taxes for my drafting business) im going to replace this with a 4790k, ive heard much better things about that chip
 

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