New System Build

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Hello

i don't really have much experience building computers, my current one me and a friend built together, and i will be asking for her help once again but i wanted to do some of the leg work instead of just relying on her.
A few days ago my graphics card (760) stopped working and i decided instead of wasting money on a low end card to get me by in the mean time i might as well build a new system which i have been meaning to do for awhile now. i am hoping to get the parts by this week or next week latest, i will use this system to play games mostly and i will not be buying a new monitor. will all so be using my old hardrive from the current system in the new one and will buy an SSD later on. i do not intend to overclcok nor use SLI. my monitor resolution is 1920 x 1080. i think i have answered all the questions from the stickied thread of about asking for advice, if i did forget anything please ask and i will answer ASAP.
I did some research and put together a list of components in partpicker and i would really appreciate it if you guys wouldn't mind taking a look and advise on how it can be optimized. i don't want to go over £1500 if it can be helped but its not set in stone.

Thank you in advance for any helpful input.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/akiro525/saved/s2Cw6h
 
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You have the budget to include an SSD, or go with a faster 1080ti, though 1080ti is overkill for 1080p gaming. Keep in mind that new graphics cards are coming soon. I believe in another week or 2, actually. That PSU is great one, but a bit overpriced. The less expensive Focus Gold is plenty. You might have ram clearance issues with that cooler as well, so I changed the cooler to the Cryorig R1 universal. Great cooler, with clearance for taller ram modules.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£320.35 @ PC World Business)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard:...
It is really hard to justify an Intel system right now with the performance of the 2000 series Ryzen chips. They are much cheaper than intel and are within a few % of FPS in gaming.

I would look at the 2600x. It comes with a good stock cooler and the motherboard will be cheaper. If you go with the 8700k, then don't get the Noctua NH-D15. It is a great cooler, but if you are not overclocking, it is not needed. Id go with a Cryorig H7 if I was not gonna OC.

Here is the build I would go with. Get the SSD now to install the OS on it. You are putting 1500 on a system and it has to have an SSD at that price. They are pretty cheap.

I added a little faster RAM as Ryzen CPUs scale well with high speed RAM. You also don't need a 750 watt PSU for that system. Seasonic has some good PSUs, but I put in a Corsair TXM 550 watt that is half the price and will push the system just fine.

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8b2LpG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8b2LpG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£191.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (£96.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£157.03 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card (£477.71 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake - View 31 TG RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£119.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£67.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1189.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-10 21:59 BST+0100
 

logainofhades

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You have the budget to include an SSD, or go with a faster 1080ti, though 1080ti is overkill for 1080p gaming. Keep in mind that new graphics cards are coming soon. I believe in another week or 2, actually. That PSU is great one, but a bit overpriced. The less expensive Focus Gold is plenty. You might have ram clearance issues with that cooler as well, so I changed the cooler to the Cryorig R1 universal. Great cooler, with clearance for taller ram modules.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£320.35 @ PC World Business)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£142.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£151.55 @ Box Limited)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB iCX GAMING Video Card (£589.21 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake - View 31 TG RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£119.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1491.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-10 21:55 BST+0100

If you really want the SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor (£320.35 @ PC World Business)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - R1 Universal 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£72.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£142.97 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£151.55 @ Box Limited)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£78.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card (£446.26 @ Novatech)
Case: Thermaltake - View 31 TG RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (£119.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.96 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1427.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-10 21:59 BST+0100

Ryzen is an option, though they tend to not game as well as Intel, especially at 1080p.
 
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That system is way overkill for 1080p resolution. The power of hardware from when your last system was built and now has changed dramatically. If all you have is a 60hz 1080p display, you could spend a great deal less on a system that can provide enough performance for casual 60fps gaming for a 60hz 1080p monitor. My point is basically this. You built and specked out an amazingly powerful machine. You should definitely spend more on a 1440p gsync panel to make the most out of that system (The key is balanced components). What's the point of buying all that powerful hardware just to look through the lens of a 1080p panel, with the inability to visually see the performance potential?
 


We dont know what his monitor refresh rate is, but I do agree, if it is 60hz, a 1080 is overpowered. But for 144hz at 1080p, the 1080 will be fine. I also agree with lgainofhades, that time wont be on the side of the 1060/580. For long term, I would look at a 1070 or higher as they will age better.
 
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Thank you all for the response and help, i am not too familiar with AMD and Ryzen so i want to stick with Intel for now anyway. Thanks for the suggestion Logain i have switched the motherboard to the one you suggested, i was wandering, a friend recommended the corsair H1 V2 for the cooler instead of air, what is your guys opinion on that?
and yes you are correct, only reason i am going for an overkill system is because i don't plan to upgrade for another few years . i have also added an SSD.
i will invest in a 1440P monitor down the line,

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/akiro525/saved/s2Cw6h
 

If your goal is aesthetics when it comes to a CPU cooler, by all means go for it. However there's an additional point of failure aka the pump. Additionally, you can get an air cooler that can perform better at a fraction of the cost. If you care about looks in the build and the AIO would look great inside the case, go for it. However if it will remain out of site and out of mind, stick to an air cooler so you don't have to worry about the pump failing and water leaks.
 

logainofhades

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AIO coolers look nice, but they aren't really any better than a really good air cooling solution. This holds especially true with Intel's cheap TIM, under the CPU's heat spreader. It cannot transfer the heat efficiently enough, that even a custom loop is going to do little, if anything, to improve temps.