Trying to extend internet to my barn

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jonathanbaker8979

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Please help me. I have done research for weeks now. I have wasted so much money on product's that suppose to extend, repeat, bridge, and boost internet. All I want to do is take Internet from my house using Netgear R6250 router, To my barn about 300 feet away! Looking for low cost now that I have spent over $400 on useless products. I have somewhat clear line of site. I Tried running 300 feet of cat6 to another router, my isp took control of the router that I bought and now can't even reset it to factory default. My access point that I used will get signal to my window at my barn but that it. Unless I'm standing at the window I have nothing. I'm trying to get my smart tv to be able to stream netflix, two cell phone to work, and a computer at my barn. so What do I need?
 
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300 foot is too close to theoretical max, ideal condition, of 100m, I wouldn't trust a copper cable for the job, would look at fiber instead.

But OK, u don't need any fancy high throughput, I just recently saw a YouTube video, apparently they sell these dish antennas for line-of-sight that say can go for miles at decent throughput, brand and $ escapes me at the moment.
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300 foot is too close to theoretical max, ideal condition, of 100m, I wouldn't trust a copper cable for the job, would look at fiber instead.

But OK, u don't need any fancy high throughput, I just recently saw a YouTube video, apparently they sell these dish antennas for line-of-sight that say can go for miles at decent throughput, brand and $ escapes me at the moment.
 
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Really surprised that the CAT6 solution didn't work. CAT6 is rated for 100M or 328ft. That said with that distance if the connections aren't perfect and there is any interference it could reduce the effective range substantially.

I assume you've tried high gain directional antennas already? Like the ones linked below? I would use one of those to project to a wifi repeater carefully placed in your barn to pick up the signal where it's strongest (in that window) and then rebroadcast.

Another option would be to get a CAT6 signal repeater to help cover the long distance. Those are unfortunately relatively expensive.

I agree with Kanewolf though, it would be helpful to know what you've tried and what you have so help make some more educated suggestions.

edit: forgot the link https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=long+range+wifi+antenna&N=-1&isNodeId=1
 
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You could potentially try setting the connection between your house router and barn router to 100 Mbps rather than 1 Gbps. If you are running into the max cable length restriction for Cat6, maybe you could get around it by switching to a lower data rate.

What router/equipment do you have in the barn now? Are all devices in the barn wireless?
 
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For a line of sight at that short range you can get a great signal with UBIQUITI AIR GRID M5 that comes in a package with everything for both ends except poles to attach them on for $135. If you hunt around you may be able to save a few bucks with a different vendor like Newegg or the M2 (2.4GHz model). I've seen them for as low as $60 per unit, which includes the PoE injector and all hardware except the mounting pole.
 
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While I have used ethernet at well over the 100 meter spec, it really depends on interference in your environment.

Note that it is generally a no-no to connect two separately grounded buildings with ethernet which is why fiber or wireless is recommended--can't conduct large ground currents over optical or wireless links.

However you can get around this if everything attached in the 2nd building is powered over the ethernet cable using POE from the 1st building. That is, if the only thing attached to ethernet in the 2nd building is a POE powered Access Point. And if needed, the signal repeater suggested by grimfox could be located midpoint between the buildings and also powered by POE (it would certainly not be handy to run power to there). As someone with a barn is not likely to be able to get very fast internet service where they are, chances are good a 10/100 repeater would be good enough--and those are cheap.
 
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You want what is called a outdoor bridge. It might work with one only on the remote end at that distance but no way to tell. You could put one on both ends and it would work for sure.

Most the ones I have used are from ubiquiti but engenius makes them also. They have a lot of models but even the ones that cost $50 each would likely work fine for the distance. It also depends on how much speed you need. The newer ones based on 802.11ac are faster.
 
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Ok so today after my last purchase and installing it. Still nothing. So being that I'm just an electrician, I got some of our it guys out here. And we have found out what the problem was. Are you ready for this. My ISP that is the only one available in my area other than hughesnet(junk) already tried it. Has a system integrated into their lines at each booster station that somehow picks up on something and can tell that I'm trying to upgrade something that is not permitted. We tried everything this week to do something. Works perfect until I try set parameters of all the devices. Now what! And I refuse to pay another $121.65 for another slow connection that can't stream netflix on multiple devices at the same time. So now we are going to try and set up something in our area to offer our own ISP. After a couple of other people found this out we have 3 big backers with deep pockets!
 
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That seems very odd. When you have everything set up, are you able to have local network traffic between devices on the barn and devices in the house? E.g. ping between machines, file transfer, etc? Because that would confirm that you have network connectivity in the barn independently of having internet access/your ISP.
 
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I don't understand how the ISP can do anything inside your network to block or throttle the traffic. A decent firewall should prevent them from seeing any of the devices on your network. And they shouldn't have any qualms with feeding data to multiple buildings on the same property, owned by the same entity. It all sounds very suspect and assuming the router mentioned in your original post was a privately owned (not rented from the ISP) router they shouldn't have been able to do anything with/to it, legally speaking. If you can prove that the ISP bricked the router then you have a small claims filing, potentially a criminal invasion of privacy, property damage claim as well. I think there is a pretty nasty hacking law/commiting crime with a computer law, that would be pretty disastrous... if you can prove the ISP was at fault.

I wish you the best of luck and will be interested to read followups and updates on this issue.
 
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