I was gifted some new gen computer parts...may have over overclocked.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

A fellow on another forum I am a member of gifted me some parts he "didn't want to mess with".
I know from some userbenchmarks he posted that he attempted to WAY OC this chip and mobo.

i5 8600k
Gigabyte z370 hd3
Corsair Vengeance RGB (3000mhz)

I brought it home, plugged it all in to a power supply out in the open to see if anything even worked. It powered right up but was unable for about an hour to get it to display anything. I reset CMOS and it threw up the splash screen and we were off.
It loaded W10 and seemingly was operational.

I noted that when I powered it up the first time it had the 'XMP' light lit up on the mobo. After resetting CMOS it turned that and whatever OC he had on it off.
I started poking around and note that the RAM is only running at 2133. Any time I try to increase it up to rated or turn on XMP it BSOD with a "your PC ran into a problem" and then goes into the infinity restore loop. It takes a wipe and re-install to bring it back.
Same thing happens with any type of power adjustment or attempt to OC, even with the mobo stock OC settings.

When the computer is powered on there is a faint burnt popcorn smell emanating from the cooler area. The proc had some thermal paste left on where he removed the cooler. It was still nice an silvery and did not smell burnt. I cleaned it off, re-applied, and reinstalled the cooler. It is a tower air cooler and proc temps are staying super low with it.

I had intended to gift this to a friend but am concerned about actually building it out into a system with what I know is damage to something. I suspect the mobo is damaged from the voltage.

What tests should I put on this to see where the damage lies?
I would much rather it fail on the bench than after I buy a few parts to install in case.

bmockeg · Sep 17, 2018

Well, the motherboard model is pretty cheap with a weak VRM. I wouldn't have even tried to overclock on that board. I would buy a good motherboard and trash that one.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

Sounds like they fried one or more of the VRM's or capacitors on the MB trying to OC it. That's not a good OCing board in the 1st place, standard quality board.

If you have the box and all the parts you could try and RMA it.

herrwizo · Sep 17, 2018

Most certainly damaged at least 1 component (my 5 cents go to mobo). That mobo is not a good choice for extreme OC due to weak voltage regulators.

Replace mobo before doing anything else.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

I agree with the above assessments, however is there a way to actually test and confirm this with a program, meter, w/e?

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

herrwizo :

Yeah, classic example why people shouldn't buy used parts these days... (Lucky he was gifted it)

Way too many idiots out there, especially these days. :sarcastic:

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

Look at it this way...

NOBODY gives anything that is actually good away (NEW stuff).

They already knew it has an issue before they gave it to you, reason why they didn't want to deal with it.

Just start the RMA process with Gigabyte.

They were stupid (Not at all surprising these days) to push that board in the 1st place as it's not a good OC board, lower end MB.

herrwizo · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

Do not test anything with it. The mobo is most certainly damaged, and just mere testing can only make stuff worse.

The safest route to test is to use a different mobo and only then test both RAM and CPU. And remember, there is still a chance that CPU and/or RAM is damaged as well, if the original owner pushed the voltage too far. And it seems to be the case. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst ....

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

^ Jankerson, I appreciate the sentiment, however I didn't purchase this (new) and would not try to do something of that nature.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

Best thing to do is get rid of the MB or try an RMA.

Either way junk it.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

herrwizo :

Considering that this WAS a gift, and I am currently on Ryzen all around I don't have a way to test the proc. I really don't want to purchase a new mobo on a 'maybe' that I am not planning to use myself.

The RAM I can test in another rig for sure. If nothing else, the drive was worth that alone. Nice cooler included too....

Thanks for your thoughts, fellas.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

If the ram checks out you could get a B360 MB and use that. (As a gift system)

The CPU has a good chance of still being good.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

Yeah, I feel like the CPU itself is good to the degree that it is loading everything I give it, and I see it properly power scaling. It (visually) seems to run between 500mhz and 4.2-ish Ghz and is running stupid cool on this tower cooler. Likely why he was emboldened to OC it so hard.

This mobo and proc were some kind of combo deal with someone like Fry's.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

That and too many YT videos out there made by idiots.

I would bet the CPU is good, the ram.... Well maybe.

The MB is cooked though.

bignastyid · Sep 17, 2018

When you enabled XMP did it automatically enable MCE? If so try disabling MCE after you enable XMP. MCE locks all cores at the turbo frequency and ups the voltage. If the system works at stock settings you could always just run with XMP off(Intel doesn't take the performance hit with slower ram like Ryzen does) and leave the cpu at stock frequencies.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

bignastyid :

Given where I am on it price wise and what it was intended for, as a gift to another...this is along the lines of what I would 'like' to do.

I was wondering if you feel like a stress/bench or gaming benchmark run over and over would either show it will hold together for that exact thing, or make it fail?

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

bignastyid :

Given where I am on it price wise and what it was intended for, as a gift to another...this is along the lines of what I would 'like' to do.

I was wondering if you feel like a stress/bench or gaming benchmark run over and over would either show it will hold together for that exact thing, or make it fail?

I wouldn't gift something to another person that has issues, not fair to them in the long run even though it was a gift.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

jankerson :

punkncat :

I wouldn't gift something to another person that has issues, not fair to them in the long run even though it was a gift.

Lol, I certainly don't disagree with that statement.
This is one of those nice/not nice gifts. Kind of like a good looking car that is actually mechanically totaled. It LOOKS like it should work.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

punkncat :

jankerson :

Lol, I certainly don't disagree with that statement.
This is one of those nice/not nice gifts. Kind of like a good looking car that is actually mechanically totaled. It LOOKS like it should work.

Yeah...

The thing about MB's is they don't get BETTER with time, they get worse.

bignastyid · Sep 17, 2018

If it runs fine(passes stress tests) at stock simply explain its limitations to whom you are giving it too.

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

bignastyid :

Remember what he said about the burning smell?

MB's with issues only get worse as time goes on, they die a slow painful death.

punkncat · Sep 17, 2018

I think I will approach the guy I was looking to gift it to with the issues and see if he wants to chance it working for a while or go ahead and get a mobo…..I honestly may just keep it myself to avoid a headache down the road.

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and suggestions.

bignastyid · Sep 17, 2018

jankerson :

So if you didn't have a system or had an old slow one and someone offered to give you a system with an 8600k that runs fine at stock settings and has passed stress testing and the only caveats were the motherboard had possibly been damaged so it won't OC and that motherboard may die early, you wouldn't take it?

jankerson · Sep 17, 2018

bignastyid :

jankerson :

So if you didn't have a system or had an old slow one and someone offered to give you a system with an 8600k that runs fine at stock settings and has passed stress testing and the only caveats were the motherboard had possibly been damaged so it won't OC and that motherboard may die early, you wouldn't take it?

Nope, I wouldn't use the MB.

I would take it and get a new MB and trash the old one right away.

bignastyid · Sep 17, 2018

jankerson :

bignastyid :

Nope, I wouldn't use the MB.

I would take it and get a new MB and trash the old one right away.

So you'd take the system and replace the motherboard. Better than not being offered it at all.

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