Quad channel dual channel question

elkido122

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I have a kit of 4x 8gb gskill trident z which is a quad channel kit at 3600. I want to put it into a z370 dual channel board. Will all the sticks work in the board as dual channel or will I get a bsod and not same frequencies.  So will it work as intended I guess is my question
 
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I agree I never said definitely, but I said it should and probably, but may require tweaking or overclocking. Memory controller durability often...

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Don't let quad channel labelling confuse you from what they really are. Theyre just a package of four memory modules binned together assuring best results. Overtime the process materials to make memory modules can change and results are minute differences resulting in slightly different ram even if the same brand and model and thus a possibility of mismatch ram causing issues.

Pack of four or quad channel kit can run in single/dual/triple or quad channel configurations. The memory architecture depends on the motherboard and not the ram. Layman's terms, the ram doesn't tell the motherboard what to do.

So you did the right thing buying a kit of four memory modules aa that assures they'll all work together. If you bought two separate twin kits there's a possibility they wont work together.
 

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Populating all dimms can work the CPU's memory controller more thats true, i agree with bmockeg. Id go max 3200 or keep to native speeds of 2666.

3600 or 3200 can run at default spd value of 2666 so just depends on price and willingness to give it a try under xmp profile.
 

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Thats not true at all. You can populate all 4 slots anytime. The only time boards "don't like it" is if you don't use a matched memory kit.



I disagree. The "working of the memory controller" issue is highly overblown, there is no reason this kit can't run at its full XMP rated speed. If it were over 4000mhz I'd say maybe (and thats more a function of processor yield and motherboard quality than anything), and he may need to overclock the processor slightly for this to work, but it will work.

OP turn on XMP and run it at 3600mhz it should work fine.
 

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No I did say it should work and it may require a processor overclock. You and boju both implied it will not work.
There are never any guarantees in memory unless you buy exactly whats on the QVL and use the highest yield processor (i7). Incidentally the QVL is not a support list, its whats been tested by the manufacturer to work. It does not mean that other modules won't work in XMP. The board doesn't have that list saved in the BIOS that says "hmm hes not using 4 dimms of model xxxx memory, don't run XMP". As an aside if XMP doesn't work that also doesn't mean he can't manually set it to get the same clock rate results. He may have to do some tweaking, XMP is not always a catch all, especially if he was trying to do this on a lower binned processor like an i5.

And none of this changes the fact that the statement "motherboards don't like all slots taken up" is a complete fallacy.
 

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Look at your motherboard memory qualified vendor list page, some ram may not finished testing so it'll not listed 4 slot compatible, only few program benefit fast ram, but having lots of GB ram always beneficiary such as ramdisk.

Worst thing is either ram vendor haven't sent it sample for motherboard vendor, so motherboard vendor won't list c
 

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Actually what you said was:



I mean its right there. I don't understand why everyone is so defensive over this. You didn't say the ram "won't work" but the guys question was if its going to run at 3600mhz. Both of you implied it will not.

What you did say that I highly agree with and forgot to mention replying last night is if you're going to populate 4 DIMMs buying a quad channel kit is the most likely to work since all 4 are matched to eachother, even if your system isn't quad channel.
 

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I should have written it better. I went with an opinion and should have stated more clearly what i would go with personally. The 'it' in the next paragraph should have said 3600 when saying give it a try under xmp.

Personally i don't like to advise surety when it comes to PC hardware. It's usually involves should, maybe and probably unless 100% proved otherwise. Tradesman 1 often talked about MC durability, i suppose things have changed since but im not sure so i just advise the best i can with the information i know. Not saying you're wrong.

It's all good. Hope it is for you.
 

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I agree I never said definitely, but I said it should and probably, but may require tweaking or overclocking. Memory controller durability often has to do with voltage, as people will try to increase voltage to make ram stable but over a certain point it will have a similar detrimental effect to turning the voltage too high on your main processor overclock. Also then imagine that voltage multiplied by 4 modules instead of 2. It totally still can be an issue, but its not as delicate as it may seem (ie not using 4 modules).

There were chipsets as well that had limitations, for example AM3 and AM3+ even the 990fx chipset would have a hard time getting 4 DIMMS stable at 1866mhz. 2 would be fine, but 4 it just couldn't handle it.

All good and appreciate the candor.
 
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