Upgrading Graphics Card CPU/MOBO Compatability

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Ran into an issue with my old GPU (XFX Double D Radeon HD 7870 Ghz Edition) I recently had to full restore on my SSD (what i boot off of) and now I cannot get any of the graphic drivers to install; I've sent a ticket in to XFX but haven't heard back / computer gets to the Windows load screen and then goes black) I'm still working on this issue but I have such an OLD GPU that the most of the troubleshooting I've done hasn't worked, so I'm preparing to just get a new GPU.

Question:
I want to get a GTX 1060 Ti (EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 SC) but am not 100% certain if this will cause my cpu to bottleneck or have any other issues.

other option - EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti SC. Same question as above

Specs:
ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Corsair 650TX
Intel Core i5 3570K Ivy Bridge Quad Core
G.Skill RipJaws x Series 8GB
XFX Double D Radeon HD 7870 GHz

Outro:
I realize a lot of this is super outdated but at the moment I am looking for a band-aid until I've saved enough to fully upgrade my rig.

Thanks for any help!
 
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I assume you mean CPU? Basically whatever you want. For maximum FPS, probably looking at an Intel hex core like the i5-8600k overclocked, or an i7-8700k. The new i7-9700k with is pure 8 cores might also be worthwhile. I don't think the i9-9900k is currently worth it. For a more multipurpose (and usually cheaper) build, an R5-2600 and up...

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Not that old really. There are a few games that won't like the older quad core, but most games run just fine on Ivy Bridge.

GTX1060 6GB is a good choice. When you are mixing older hardware with new the goal is not to go to extremes. An i5-3570k would be the bottleneck for some of the high end GPUs, but it would still work. It would just be the CPU setting the maximum frame rate. The GTX1060 would perform better on a newer platform, but it is about what you want to spend on a GPU, particularly if you are planning on replacing the CPU later on.
 

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If you're running 1920x1080@60Hz, then the RX 580 8GB or the GTX 1060 6GB are the way to go. Whichever costs less.

Don't even think about bottleneck. There is absolutely NO WAY WHATSOEVER that moving to a faster video card can possibly make your CPU run slower or less effectively.
 

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Pretty the same question would my current configuration be able to support a EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti SC?
 

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true if you're running on fhd or hd, CPU doesn't need to compute extra 3D world as much as when user chose broader resolution (2k or 4k), mostly i5 3570k + rx 580 will run around 60fps at highest graphic detail.

mislead CPU could be the bottleneck if user chose high 2K or 4K res, with broader res, CPU would have to provide GPU with calculated user's command and game engine's 3D world according to chosen screen res + chosen graphic detail, while game vendors tend to favor instruction per cycle over cores count, however, the high IPC rate isn't the only requisite, more like the advance of micro architecture / platform, even the bandwidth of memory effecting the end result number of frame per second.

I'd read more reviews, find out where is i5 3570K place at 2018 Z770 express CPU hierarchy and it best GPU pair on certain game res and graphic detail. Is having flagship GPU pair with i5 3570K = pleonastic? no, you can always sell and then upgrade to i7 3770K https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
 

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It supports any GPU you want to choose. I think you'll find the CPU the limiting factor though. At lower resolutions you are going to get lots of Frames Per Second. For each frame the CPU has to send data to the GPU. There will be a point where the CPU is saturated and the GPU will have idle time. That is best avoided because it means your CPU is at maximum load all the time, which can lead to overheating. If cooling is good enough for the CPU you will just have some GPU sitting idle, meaning you have overpaid.

If you plan on upgrading the rest of the system in the near future, then buying a fast GPU will net you a lot of benefit now, and than an increase later. So I wouldn't say don't buy it, but be aware that you probably won't achieve the same FPS as the benchmarks you see (They will have used an i7-7700k or 8700k as their test platform)
 

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I'd agree - no harm in going to a 1070Ti. The only possible downside is if it's overkill for your monitor.

On the other hand, if you're also planning on going to a faster-refresh or higher resolution monitor in the future, then it's a good move to make.

What's the resolution and refresh of your current monitor?
 

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Planned on getting a Monitor + 1070-ti together, and eventually buying parts over the course of a few months. Just want to double check my notes, that I can buy the parts now (be able to use them) while I slowly buy the rest.

As for the Monitor was thinking something in 1440p 144Hz range.
 

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1440p @ 144hz really requires a bit more oomph than a 1070Ti if you want to get anywhere near 144 FPS. Probably looking at mid 80s for recent high end titles at max settings. Lighter games will be no problem.

1080Ti if you really want to get the most out of a 1440p 144hz monitor over the next few years.
 

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That, I did not know, what specs should I be looking for to best pair up with a 1070-ti
 

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Depends on whether whether you prioritize higher resolution, or higher refresh rates.

For any given video card, the lower the total number of pixels on the monitor, the faster of a frame rate it can manage.
 

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I assume you mean CPU? Basically whatever you want. For maximum FPS, probably looking at an Intel hex core like the i5-8600k overclocked, or an i7-8700k. The new i7-9700k with is pure 8 cores might also be worthwhile. I don't think the i9-9900k is currently worth it. For a more multipurpose (and usually cheaper) build, an R5-2600 and up is a good alternative.

For a 1070Ti I think a 2560x1440 monitor is just about right. Doesn't have to exceed 60hz, but that is nice to have since people tend to keep monitors around longer than GPUs. Then you have to decide between G-sync or not. G-sync is pretty neat when your GPU is a little underpowered, makes for a smooth experience, but that adds like $150 to the base monitor cost. So the cheapest QHD g-sync panels are $380 but only 24". Cheapest 27" is $450.

 
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