What should I upgrade ?
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richiestang_78
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Honestly there really isn't anything you could do with this setup to get a meaningful upgrade. You would be better off saving up to build a more modern system.
vapour
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assuming Germany has similar pricing point:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€104.31 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€80.89 @ Alternate)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€97.00 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €282.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-20 17:07 CEST+0200
GPU comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-440-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU/m7783vsm441833
CPU comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-E8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/2720vsm441832
Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx26xG_mUE
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€104.31 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€80.89 @ Alternate)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€97.00 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €282.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-20 17:07 CEST+0200
GPU comparison: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-440-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU/m7783vsm441833
CPU comparison: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core2-Duo-E8400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/2720vsm441832
Performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx26xG_mUE
I double this. Your build is quite old and whatever you will change, you will be bottlenecked by the other.
it might be reasonable to try buying used 9XX series card, maybe 930 maybe 950 ....
if you want some used parts to help, but it will not help much.
vapour
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Depends on budget and series, usage, Ryzen 2600 is roughly on par with I5-8400 but has doubled threads.
Your budget is kind of too little for really fast I5/I7, not to mention 2nd/3rd gen is not necessarily better than Ryzen:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-3770-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/1979vsm441832
This shows 3770 is on par with 2200g but you can overclock 2200g to be better
The other thing is your GPU too weak, IGPU vega 8 from 2200G is way better from link above
Onus
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What isn't running as well as you'd like, or what do you know you cannot run but want to?
If the need is slight, you could add a better graphics card. A GT1050 does not need a PCIe power cable and should run in your system, boosting graphics a visible amount. This money would not be wasted, as you could use this card if you later decide to rebuild (although you may want still stronger; we really need to know what you want to improve or be able to run that you can't now).
For the most part, however, I agree with those suggesting to try to rebuild the entire system. What you have is old enough that some parts (e.g. motherboard and PSU) may be nearing their physical end-of-life (typically due to capacitor aging and/or tiny but cumulative stress from thermal cycling).
A 120GB SSD is pretty small, even for a limited-purpose system.
For a near-term, easy upgrade, Vapour's suggestion is not bad, but you'll also need to figure in the cost of a Windows license, and I really think you'll want a larger SSD, preferably 480GB-512GB. The integrated graphics of the 2200G is considerably stronger than what you have, and you can add a graphics card later. He doesn't specify a new PSU for you, which may not be needed except for the previously-mentioned capacitor aging, and that you may at some point want to add a more powerful graphics card, likely to require a larger / better PSU than what you have; what is the brand and model (not just wattage) of the PSU you have? Does it have any PCIe power cables on it?
If the need is slight, you could add a better graphics card. A GT1050 does not need a PCIe power cable and should run in your system, boosting graphics a visible amount. This money would not be wasted, as you could use this card if you later decide to rebuild (although you may want still stronger; we really need to know what you want to improve or be able to run that you can't now).
For the most part, however, I agree with those suggesting to try to rebuild the entire system. What you have is old enough that some parts (e.g. motherboard and PSU) may be nearing their physical end-of-life (typically due to capacitor aging and/or tiny but cumulative stress from thermal cycling).
A 120GB SSD is pretty small, even for a limited-purpose system.
For a near-term, easy upgrade, Vapour's suggestion is not bad, but you'll also need to figure in the cost of a Windows license, and I really think you'll want a larger SSD, preferably 480GB-512GB. The integrated graphics of the 2200G is considerably stronger than what you have, and you can add a graphics card later. He doesn't specify a new PSU for you, which may not be needed except for the previously-mentioned capacitor aging, and that you may at some point want to add a more powerful graphics card, likely to require a larger / better PSU than what you have; what is the brand and model (not just wattage) of the PSU you have? Does it have any PCIe power cables on it?
captaincharisma
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Onus
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That sounds like a generic that came with your case. Unless it has an 80+ rating, which means it survived outputting its full rated power (although at an artificially low temperature), it is likely little better than "junk" quality, and will not be able to run any graphics card that a needs a PCIe power connection. If you rebuild, plan to replace it with a decent unit, likely for at least 50E.
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