Made a mistake buying but can i salvage it rather than returning?

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ADMI ULTRA GAMING PC With Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse & Headset - AMD FX-8300 High Spec Red LED Home, Family, Multimedia Desktop Gaming Computer with Platinum Warranty: Powerful Eight Core 4.20GHz Turbo CPU, NVIDIA GTX 1050 2GB HDMI Graphics Card, 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM, 1TB Hard Drive Storage, HDMI Output 1080p, High Speed USB 3.0, 150Mbps WiFi included, Pre-Installed with Windows 10 - Including Gaming Keyboard, Mouse, Headset & 23.6 Inch Monitor


This is what i bought for £599 delivered. Thinking it would be a very basic gaming pc that would at least get me playing World of Warcraft. But WoW is only running at 7fps at best in an empty city. Now im thinking the gfx card isnt the best but it should run most games pretty ok shouldnt it?
So what is the main issue here you think?
 
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From someone that has owned and OC'd the crap out of an AMD FX 8350, there is no reason WoW should not run on it, even with the 1050 card installed. Yes, the easiest thing to do would be to return it and use the cash to get a decent Ryzen instead or an i3 machine. If you cant return it, there's a couple of things you can do to improve the performance:

Cheapest Route:

if you didn't install the OS yourself, reinstall it. That way you'll know exactly what's on your system
Download all drivers, install the games, run and test.

Lazy Route: Updates OS with latest updates and reinstall video drivers.

Investing Route: If you absolutely can't return that sucker and can't afford to get a newer chip (Ryzen or Intel), then:

Upgrade RAM...
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Ralston18

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Do some analysis.

Use Task Manager and Resource Monitor to observe your gaming PC's performance.

Chose one or the other and watch your system for 10-15 minutes. Slide the window to one side and leave open.

Game as usual. Look for the bottleneck.
 
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richiestang_78

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Yeah there's a few issues with the PC. For starters it has an older AMD FX CPU, which were never great for gaming. The 1050 isn't really that good of a card but you should be handling WoW better then 7fps.

I all honesty I would look around online and see if you can find better. Something with a Ryzen or 8th Gen Intel CPU and a 1050ti or great graphics card. Im not sure how prices are where you are in but in the US for the same money you can get a much stronger system.
 
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coozie7

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What display are you using?
Windows 10 preinstalled? Did they install the motherboard and video drivers?

You're in the UK, so if you purchased this off the 'net you can return it within 14 ( I think working ) days for a refund-it's consumer law, don't let them fob you off-although you'll have to pay shipping.
 
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basically they've sent the empty box and not installed it, makes me wonder if the motherboard is even in there also lol.

yeah I think this is going to have to get returned...
 
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WildCard999

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-Make sure your display is connected to the monitor and not the motherboard.
[strike]-GTX 1050 drivers up to date.[/strike]



You've spend a lot on a older system... I'd return it and get this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£84.98 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£64.74 @ More Computers)
Memory: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£96.00 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card (£167.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£43.79 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.99 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£60.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £600.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-20 19:28 BST+0100

Building is fairly easy.
 
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inzane4all

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From someone that has owned and OC'd the crap out of an AMD FX 8350, there is no reason WoW should not run on it, even with the 1050 card installed. Yes, the easiest thing to do would be to return it and use the cash to get a decent Ryzen instead or an i3 machine. If you cant return it, there's a couple of things you can do to improve the performance:

Cheapest Route:

if you didn't install the OS yourself, reinstall it. That way you'll know exactly what's on your system
Download all drivers, install the games, run and test.

Lazy Route: Updates OS with latest updates and reinstall video drivers.

Investing Route: If you absolutely can't return that sucker and can't afford to get a newer chip (Ryzen or Intel), then:

Upgrade RAM from 8GB to 16GB (1866Mhz if possible depending on your Motherboard)
SSD for boot drive and run the games off of the SSD. (A 500GB Samsung is now about $99 on Amazon. Just bought one.)
OC that AMD (not recommended for newbies and requires way better CPU cooling.

Those 8350 FX aren't bad if they are properly cooled. The BIOS settings may not be set correctly, so your AMD chip may be throttling down if certain energy saving features are not disabled. It all depends how the company configured the settings

You can also go to the following site and read everything Bulldozer architecture and settings suggestions:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1348623-amd-bulldozer-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard.html

Hope this helps. Good luck!
 
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coozie7

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An ATI 3000 series? Now you REALLY have them by the short and curlies if this is sold by any sort of company.
Where did you purchase it? If it was off E-bay you may need to contact them, in fact I would use them as first port of call in order to get a refund. If it was direct from a company website, return it ASAP, and if they give you any grief, mention things like false advertising and Trading Standards, I'm sure they'll become more reasonable.
 
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I don't know what the shopping situation is there is the UK, but if available even an older 4th-5th gen office refurb would KILL this machines performance. Look for one with space in the case for a 1050ti, and an ATX power supply and "create" one with a savings.
 
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inzane4all

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Eh, an ATI GFX? Yeah... Now things make more sense....

If your going to keep that PC, you'll need to upgrade the GFX, and it's just not worth it for that older chip. You'll be paying double what you paid to just get a decent graphics card.

With everything you listed, you can get the same PC way cheaper elsewhere, taking into account that cheap GFX Card they threw in. You got ripped off my friend...
 
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