Will it all fit / do I miss something?

elvismcjoins · Sep 21, 2018

Good day, everyone!

I'm on it, finally purchasing all my missing PC parts.
I wanted to wait for the 2070, but seeing the 2080 reviews, I decided to settle with a Strix 1080 next week, when my payments arrive.

Following other parts will be purchased in the next few Months:
Either Strix z370-e or Strix z370-f (depends if I want the WiFi option or not)
i5 8600K
BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4
Either a BeQuiet! Pure Power 10cm 500W, or a Corsair TX550M (Input, which would be better?)
and as mentioned, a Strix 1080 (Advanced, or is the basic version enough?)
And, if I'm on it: is the 250GB 970 EVO m.2 a good SSD to begin with?

Coming back to the main question, will it all fit on my Mainboard?
Is the Asus SafeSlot enough to prevent the 1080 from sagging?
And most importantly, I think I got this one right, but I better double check: I have 4 PCIe 6+2 on each of those PSUs, I think that's enough to power that 1080 with 6+8 Pin connector?

Thanks in before for your help, glad about every Input I can get!

Steven

Eximo · Sep 21, 2018

All GTX 1080 will perform similarly. And they can be easily overclocked to match each other. Pick the one you like.

Yes, all that sounds fine. Yes, a single 6+2 connector = 8-pin, and the other will just use the 6-pin and leave the +2 hanging. I'm surprised a 500/550W power supply offers that many connectors actually. That represents 450W on its own... I'm more familiar with the TX and it is 550W.

I wouldn't try much overclocking on the CPU paired with that GPU and power supply. Should probably be a 650W.

Ramlethal · Sep 21, 2018

To start of... I would go for the Corsair TX550M (or a thermaltake of 550W, in my personal opinion)
Gtx 1080 Strix is nice but take in mind that the card is a bit bigger than the FE 1080s
The SSD is more than perfectly fine to begin with. I normally use kingston 120 gbs ones cause i just install the OS on them on my budget gaming pcs, and never a single problem or slowness so i totally think this is more than just a start...
And Btw, very nice Taste on mobos: I love asus ones and specially those models... All this are perfectly compatable with your mobo. The only thing is to find a nice case to them... I love Thermaltake Core p5 or p9 ones, There is just SO much space and even when it seems like its gonna collect dust like nuts it dosent...
And regarding the PSU connector question, i would honestly recommend the Thermaltake one (i let you a link below) since i trust more than Coolermaster and Be queit! Ones
https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002408

Cheers!

elvismcjoins · Sep 21, 2018

Alright, I will go for the Advanced then, as it runs a little higher than standard clockspeed and actually is 5 bucks cheaper!
I wouldn't overclock the GPU anyways, the CPU is just a 'maybe later' overclock, I'm planning to do. Not opted to do so, but I wanted to be prepared, that's why I picked the 8600K, a Z-Motherboard and a bigger than usual Aircooler.

I tried the BeQuiet Power Calculator, and it says, that it should consume ~330 Watts, I thought 500-550 would opt for the 'sweet spot', even with some room left for overclocking (maybe!).

Btw, RAM will be G.Skill Tridenz Z RGB 3200, 16GB, just fyi.

Concerning Case, I'm sure it will fit, as I made a pretty nice deal here
https://www.amazon.de/Phanteks-PH-ES515PTG_SWT-ph-es515ptg-SWT-PC-Netzteil/dp/B074Q5MFX5/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1537540471&sr=1-1&keywords=Enthoo+Pro+M (not from Amazon, got it from another Store, Case + 2 Halos Bundle, 95 Bucks) and it fits graphics cards up to 420mm, so the 300mm 1080 is not a problem at all.

I think I will stick with the Corsair PSU then, as I can't seem to find the Thermaltake one here in Germany.
Thanks by the way for my appreciated taste! I'm a long time PC user now, and Asus never let me down in any regard. Now that I'm on to my first, selfmade build, I really want to step up my game with some RGB and nice looking components, and Asus ROG / Strix just hits my sweet spot in every way.

geofelt · Sep 21, 2018

Your plan is good.
I have some thoughts:

1. i5-8600K with an overclock is as good as it gets for gaming.
You will leave some 30% cpu performance on the table by not overclocking.
That is what the K is designed to do.
The DRP4 is an excellent cooler and all you need.
Possibly, the upcoming i5-9600K will overclock better, it should launch soon.

2. Any Z370 based motherboard will oc decently. Have you considered a smaller M-ATX sized motherboard?

3. I would not worry about gpu sag unless you are constantly moving your case around.
Some cases will have gpu support features like in my M-ATX Silverstone TJ-08E. Actually, I do not use it though.

4. On the psu, 550w will power a GTX1080.
8600K can support a much stronger graphics card so I would consider a 650w unit.
A psu will consume only the wattage demanded of it, regardless of the max capability.
Try to buy a tier 1/2 unit from a list such as this:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/
I like the Seasonic focus line.

5. 970 evo m.2 is an excellent choice. I currently favor the Samsung units,
Consider 500gb , it will hold a good number of games. You can always add a HDD for bulk storage later.

6. What will be your case?
Buy one that looks good to you and will hold your parts.
I like a case with at least two 120/140mm front intakes that are filtered.
That is sufficient to feed a good air cooler and hot graphics card.
If all the intake air is filtered, your parts will stay cleaner.

Good coolers like the DRP4 will need 160mm headroom.

elvismcjoins · Sep 21, 2018

1. It's the Dark Rock 4, not the Pro version! Will the 9600K run on the same coffee-lake Socket, or will I need another Motherboard then, is there any information on that?

2. I only considered a regular ATX, as it fits my case perfectly and every component on it isn't that snugged together. Is there any benefit with going for a mATX instead?

3. As I mentioned, the Asus Strix boards come with SafeSlot feature, metal-reinforced PCIe-Slots.

4. Both PSUs mentioned, Pure Power 10 500W and Corsair TX550M are both featured in the Tier 2 department of the list, already know about it!

(Spent a lot of time researching before actually looking for parts, and that's a widely-known list).

5. Already have an HDD! I'm also considering the 500GB version, but that adds another 60 bucks, I'm not sure if this is worth it, because my 1TB HDD isn't even full yet and I have a very.....let's say special taste in games, I just buy games I really want. But 500GB is definitely a point I'm still considering!

6. As mentioned in my second post, it's an Pantheks Enthoo Pro M, Tempered Glass version. It's a really big case with lots of space and without breaking into 'higher case size' category, just a regular case.

Thanks for your input!
Just btw: why running a 650W PSU? I know it only draws the power it really needs, but without overclocking, wouldn't 550W be more than enough? I'm not really into all the power-consumption stuff, and having some headroom with your Wattage is always good, but why is it a good idea to have even more than ~220W with that 8600K?

Eximo · Sep 21, 2018

1) It will require Z390 in all likelihood for the 8-core parts, however that doesn't mean the six core parts won't work in Z370, but Intel will probably limit it like they did with the quad core Coffeelake parts not being compatible in Kabylake boards (In other words, remains to be seen)

2)There is no real benefit to any motherboard size aside that larger boards have more slots and sometimes features.

3) The slot reinforcement is mostly marketing, but a lot of people have been inadvertently ripping slots out by not knowing of the latch, the metal should prevent that. GPU sag is mostly about the cards weight pulling the farthest corner down. The best solution to make sure the motherboard is perfectly square and in place and the GPU is fully slotted with the screws holding it in place.

4) Yep. TX is a tried and true series.

5) I like to go full SSD, but that is just me. Storage is always changeable, so if you run into issues later on, more drives (Another reason to go ATX, often have more than one M.2 slot)

6) Agreed, my case of choice for adaptability. Nice filtered mesh intakes, good water cooling options, nice basement, and almost every interior feature is removable.

elvismcjoins · Sep 23, 2018

Another thing I came up with now, is a little thing about the GPU.
As I mentioned, I planned on running the Strix 1080, as it's TI counterpart is still about 980-1000€ (Germany) while the 1080 Advanced sits at around 620€. Is the 1080 worth the premium over the 1070ti, which sits at 'only' 490€?
I know the difference in power is about 5%, not really noticable, but I thought, the 1080 would be a better investment, due to serving me longer in the future as a good card.

Any opinions on that?
I'm pretty set on my build now, but having some input on that part would be pretty helpful.

Eximo · Sep 24, 2018

The big difference is the base memory speed with GTX1070Ti having 8000Mhzand GTX1080 having 10000Mhz, and sometimes 11000Mhz, they have almost the same number of cores. That speed increase can be useful in some applications.

I would say cost/performance it isn't worth it. But I also like the concept of the chip being one that was fully functional out of the factory.

elvismcjoins · Sep 24, 2018

Thanks for your input, I got a bit nervous as both cards' availability was drastically dropping (8 sold cards in 1.5h according to Amazon, 6 remained), so I just ordered the 1080 advanced, didn't want to be in the position in a few years, where I miss a few percent performance to be happy.

Now with that checked on my wishlist, my last question, you said it's safer to go with the TX650M (or any 650W PSU basically) than with the 550W variant?
Thanks a lot for you all's input, that comforts me a lot!
I'd like to check a reply as an answer, but 'sadly' all of them were very helpful.

Eximo · Sep 24, 2018

Yes, If you attempt to overclock the CPU and/or GPU you would be pushing what a 500W supply is rated for, if nothing else it won't last as long. If you don't overclock, then it is fine. But not much sense buying an overclocking CPU if you aren't going to do it.

elvismcjoins · Sep 24, 2018

Then I will either go with either TX550M + i5 8400, or with TX650M + i5 8600K, thanks a lot!
Or I'll wait until Coffee Lake 2.0 releases and purchase one of those.

Thanks to all of you for the help, highly appreciate it!
Feel much better going for my build now.

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