Will ryzen 5 2600x enough for streaming?

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Hey, guys I have planned to start streaming, and I was wondering if ryzen 5 2600x with 1070ti would be enough for streaming? May I will be able to stream at 1080p or I have to stream at 720p? I have planned to stream games like pubg, fortnite,etc. Can I get 120+ fps in 1080p ultra setting while streaming at least 720p. What fps I will get if in future I decide to buy 144hz 1440p monitor? Will I be able to stream at least 720p while gaming at 1440p ultra?
Or I have to go for i7 8700k
Please help!!!
Any suggestion for my PC build and answer's are welcome. Thanks in advance.
 
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the 2600 is a much better deal than the X. Right now it's a 40-50$ price difference and when it comes to gaming the 2 pretty much perform the same. The x is a little faster, but you could buy a really nice cooler for 50-60$ and then overclock it a little. I think the retail was normally only 20$ difference or something, but right now non x has been on sale selling for 160 and x is 200+. If you are looking for a good cooler, I would recommend this one below. Purchased 2600 recently and during very heavy stress testing the cpu has yet to even hit 60c. You can buy a cheaper second 120mm fan to put on the backside of this. I bought a Thermaltake Riing 12 for 7$ to put on the back, works great...

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the 2600 is a much better deal than the X. Right now it's a 40-50$ price difference and when it comes to gaming the 2 pretty much perform the same. The x is a little faster, but you could buy a really nice cooler for 50-60$ and then overclock it a little. I think the retail was normally only 20$ difference or something, but right now non x has been on sale selling for 160 and x is 200+. If you are looking for a good cooler, I would recommend this one below. Purchased 2600 recently and during very heavy stress testing the cpu has yet to even hit 60c. You can buy a cheaper second 120mm fan to put on the backside of this. I bought a Thermaltake Riing 12 for 7$ to put on the back, works great.

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U12S-SE-AM4-premium-grade-cooler/dp/B01N9X2YYN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538415727&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=noctua+nh-u12s+amd&psc=1

Here is a good review with a lot of benchmarks.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-ryzen-5-2600-review-benchmarks

The only issue I see is trying to get 120fps in some of these games while also streaming. Doesn't matter if you have an i7 8700k w/o a GTX 1080/ti 120fps is not going to happen.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1532-pubg-cpu-benchmarks/

GTX 1070 and 120fps 1080p is going to struggle a bit on many AAA games.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review/1100-6440307/

If you can't hit 120fps 1080p then 1440p is definitely not happening. Now games like overwatch, fortnite, etc.. yeah, that will run fine, but these are the games that really don't look much better even at a higher resolution. If you want to tweak the settings a bit and adjust the framerate then your fine. If you are someone who is dead set on ultra preset (i haven't ran preset in ages) and won't turn shadows down from ultra to very high in order to gain 20fps because they think they can actually notice this during real gameplay, then save up and buy a GTX 1080 and i7. With minor tweaking, you can reach the sweet spot where you literally can not tell the difference visually while playing, but you can gain a huge boost in your fps.

I would definitely not go with a GTX 1060 for what you want. The 1060 is the perfect card to do 60-90fps 1080p ultra or 1440p 60ish fps tweaked settings. Now if you want to stream in 1080p 60fps (custom settings) and then stream 720p 30fps the 1060 and ryzen 2600 should get the job done just fine. That would be on the more visually appealing games. If you play mostly stuff like fortnite and less pubg then a 1060 definitely will be fine.

What are your future plans? When do you plan to upgrade your display? Pricing is slowly getting back to where it should be. The 1070s seem a bit high still, but the 1060 and RX580 has dropped a bit and they have some killer deals on the 580 which is basically same as a 1060.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125962&cm_re=rx580-_-14-125-962-_-Product

Another option could be buy a good cpu now, save 200$ on your GPU with something like this. Use a RX580 until you are going to upgrade your display. Do you have a 120hz display right now? Then purchase the 1070 equivalent when you upgrade the display and make a few bucks selling the old gpu. This could be a good option because of how much of a jump they have been making the last few years on each new gpu model.

Compare a gtx760 to a 950, 950 cost less and outperforms. then the 960 to the 1050ti, again cost less and outperforms. the 1060 outperforms the much more expensive 970. The R9 270x cost about the same as a RX 480, but the 480 greatly outperforms the 270x. The 270x could not run 60fps+ ultra in basically every AAA game and the 480 can, but yet the cost the same amount. If they keep on this pattern, the next model to come out equal to the previous 1070 in the sub 400 price range could be better performing than a current 1080/ti.. This also assumes pricing doesn't get royally fd again. I have a feeling it won't because now you basically need expensive mining setups and gpu is not the way to go.

good luck
 
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T99. Thanks for your efforts to explain me everything you know. I appreciate your efforts.
I don't have 120hz monitor. I am planning to buy a 75hz monitor. As you stated it is actually right the prices of 1060 are dropping. And it is much cheaper than a month before. I think you are right about ryzen 5 2600 and good cooler. I also want to buy GTX 1070 or 1070ti. But if price of 1070 came down by 70-90$ then I will buy it currently it is costly. I found GTX 1070ti cheaper at Nvidia official website for 449$. If it falls down by 70-90$ then I will buy it. If it does not falls , then I think going with 1060 would be great option. If I am getting more than 60fps for ultra settings in pubg then I don't have issue because cpu will be able to stream at 1080p 60fps or 720p60fps. I will upgrade GPU when I will get donations when I will start streaming. Please post any answer or suggestions you want. Thank you again for bcmockeg and t99.
 

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I found this review today which has some good benchmarks of streaming while gaming and the 2600 holds up really well. So the really interesting part is that the i7 8700k wins out in total fps of the game, even the i5 wins there, but what happens when we start streaming?

https://youtu.be/GDggr3kt96Q

They use the 2600x here, but it's going to be basically the same performance. In Pubg the 8700k has a nice lead in fps, but on the streaming side of things they are basically even at a 10Mbps stream. The first video is really nice because you can see the i5 8600k which is a beast for only gaming, struggles to do both. That video is the streamers view so the 2600k has lower total fps, it doesn't matter if the cpu with higher fps can't stream all the frames to begin with.

The 2600 drops a lot in total fps when streaming going from 120 to 90, but that 90 is 100% smooth catching every frame of the stream so it's worth the loss in total fps. The i7 8700k can hit 120fps in pubg while also streaming, but this assumes you have a GTX1080ti which is what they test with. I think 1080p 60fps streaming is going to require way too many resources, but i'm not sure, i don't really stream. That should be way over 10Mbps though.

You can buy a ryzen 2600 + GTX 1060 / RX 580 for not much more than just an i7 8700k, plus the motherboard should be much cheaper. MSI has some really nice B450's in the 100$ price range.

I wouldn't count on too many donations right away, it's not exactly easy to get started unless you are a top 1% player or people just really love watching you for whatever reason. If you aren't getting the 1070 then I would also really consider the RX580 because you can get them for a bit less than the 1060. If you go the route of saving then you might as well save even more and just upgrade to a 2070 or the next gen.

I think right now is good time to buy a Ryzen cpu (sales + recent release) and bad time for a gpu. Kepler and Maxwell both ran for right at 2 years and now Pascal is going on 3. Either they hit a wall or big improvements are coming. I read an article today about how all the board partners are forced to buy up all these 1000 series if they want to be the first ones to get inventory of the 2000 series. This could mean price drops on the 10 series, but maybe not. They might try to dump them slighty above cost as soon as possible so they don't get stuck with them.

If you need to purchase a GPU now then I would say definitely go with the 1070. If you buy a 200-250$ 1060 or 580 now, then sell it for 100$ and buy a gtx 2070 for 400$ you pay 50$-100 more than buying a 1070 now, but the performance should equal that of a 1080 which initially retailed for 100$ more so it all kind of evens out. The only way you make out better would be buying a card for only 200$ and managing to sell it for like 140$ which seems doable, but makes many assumptions. There is also no guarantee prices fall back to normal or how much the 2070 is going to cost, this assumes 400$ based on 1070 retail of 380.. with so much up in the air the 1070 is a safe bet.
 

He makes it a point to go for so called out of the box performing,as in someone who has zero idea and can't be bothered to learn how to change one single setting,if you know what to do and this reviewer does know you can get a smooth stream,he shows as much at this point.
https://youtu.be/GDggr3kt96Q?t=552
 
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Thanks t99, terrylaze for your answer. As you said t99 you are right about everything. I do wish to buy 1070 but price is Around 486$ and price of 1060 is 361$ in my country. This is the main headache for me. I did not found any cheap mic. And webcam for streaming, I guess I have to search it on local stores. That's why I have decided to buy GTX 1060. You are very right about donation's , that's why I will stick to gtx1060 and when I will get enough subscribers and donation then I will sell GTX 1060. And will look to buy etc 2070. Or 1070. I guess 6mbps upload speed and 6mbps download speed will be enough for streaming. Again humble thanks for your efforts to help me. If you have any further suggestions please drop down.
 

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good luck