Question M.2 SSD + PCI-E M.2 Adapter = Not detected in Asrock QC5000M-ITX/PH

supermanu15 · Sep 27, 2018

This the M.2 SSD I bought:
https://www.lazada.com.ph/-i217980565-s284427279.html?spm=a2o4l.order_list.detail_image..23c23e17kL9sZi&urlFlag=true&mp=1

This is the M.2 PCI-E Adapter I bought:
https://www.lazada.com.ph/-i229848968-s307831867.html?spm=a2o4l.order_list.detail_image..23c23e17kL9sZi&urlFlag=true&mp=1

I just want to ask the community why my Asrock QC5000M-ITX/PH is not detecting it in the BIOS however I have the LED lights on the SSD at a solid blue. I was planning on upgrading my server and an addition of an SSD was tempting to me, but I lack the SATA ports on the motherboard to add another storage since I have 2 hard drives occupying it already. I would appreciate it if someone can shed some light on this on why it doesn't work, if it can work, or what I should do next, thanks a million!

Rogue Leader · Sep 27, 2018

Two reasons

1. That board (like most) probably doesn't support booting from a PCIe slot, but that doesn't really matter because
2. That adapter doesn't work with the drive you bought. You bought an M.2 SATA drive and that PCIe card only supports M.2 PCIe drives.

If I were you I'd buy a PCIe SATA adapter to add more SATA ports and buy a normal 2.5 inch drive. Use that on your motherboard's SATA ports and move one or more ofyour hard drives to the PCIe SATA card. You said this is a server, you REALLY don't need a PCIe NVMe drive for it.

supermanu15 · Sep 27, 2018

wait m.2 has 2 types? an m.2 sata and an m.2 pcie? what good are pcie adapters anyway if it doesnt support both? :/

Rogue Leader · Sep 27, 2018

supermanu15 :

Yes there are 2 basic types. M.2 SATA is the same performance as a regular SATA port its just in the small M.2 form factor, good for space saving and laptops. M.2 PCIe is the high performance variant. What good it is, is using an adapter to run an M.2 SATA drive is kind of a waste, you lose the benefit of the form factor, and its no faster than a wired SATA drive. There are adapters out there that will run an M.2 SATA drive, but the one you bought isn't one of them.

Either way I'm reasonably sure your motherboard won't boot from it anyway.

supermanu15 · Sep 27, 2018

wait, there's m.2 sata, m.2 pcie and then there's nvme? what's the difference? also is it ok if i just purchase a pcie to sata connector adapter? will that work? because the way i see it if the board does not support booting from pcie, that suggestion might not work anyway :/

Rogue Leader · Sep 27, 2018

supermanu15 :

There is only 2 M.2 SATA and M.2 PCIe NVMe.

You can buy an adapter that looks just like the one you have except it will take an M.2 SATA drive. Example:

https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Port-PCIe-Express/dp/B01IR05DLK

That said, your board isn't going to boot from it, so its a waste of time and money. Your board will only boot from the onboard SATA ports or a USB drive.

supermanu15 · Sep 28, 2018

hold on, you mentioned that an alternative would be to purchase a pcie to sata adapter right? an expansion card that has multiple sata ports in it right? will it detect the hard drives i plug into it but unable to boot from it?

Rogue Leader · Sep 28, 2018

supermanu15 :

yes this for example

https://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-2-port-Controller-SY-PEX40039/dp/B005B0A6ZS

Will give you 2 additional sata ports. You won't be able to boot from them, but you can run 2.5" drives off them

supermanu15 · Sep 30, 2018

Rogue Leader :

I forgot to mention that this server of mine is a linux based hypervisor, does the said hardware have linux support? Thank you so much for the information and assistance!

Peter Martin · Sep 30, 2018

M.2 has THREE key types actually.

supermanu15 · Sep 30, 2018

Peter Martin :

Please expound.

Peter Martin · Sep 30, 2018

The connector at the bottom is what I’m talking about there is B type, M and B+M

M key is pcie. That’s what you want apparently. However if you’re going to get the PCI Sata adapter for putting in more Sata drives that’s fine

supermanu15 · Sep 30, 2018

But getting that type means nothing according to Rogue Leader, I just thought that when plugging these in would just detect it as another storage but what he said made sense because this board doesnt support boot from PCI-E :/

kerberos_20 · Sep 30, 2018

external sata could be booted from, they ususaly have bootable oprom
that mainboard supports option roms (legacy/uefi), AddOn ROM Display have to be enabled

btw that asm 1061 from link above has Option Rom support through 64K Byte SPI flash, so u can boot from drives connected to it

Rogue Leader · Sep 30, 2018

Peter Martin :

Means nothing for him plugging a SATA drive into a add in card that only supports PCIe.

kerberos_20 :

The motherboard also needs to support it, his motherboard does not.

supermanu15 · Sep 30, 2018

So right now I am planning just to sell these items and buy a 2.5" 60GB SSD and then this expansion card

It has linux support and ASM1061, so I'm sure I won't have any problems with it. But now I am planning to just keep this M.2 SATA SSD and just purchase an M.2 to SATA adapter which is this

Is this a good idea?

Rogue Leader · Sep 30, 2018

supermanu15 :

Rogue Leader :

I forgot to mention that this server of mine is a linux based hypervisor, does the said hardware have linux support? Thank you so much for the information and assistance!

Yes it will support in Linux.

Rogue Leader · Sep 30, 2018

supermanu15 :

Both links are exactly the same. if you used that card all it will do is turn an M.2 SATA drive into a normal SATA drive.

supermanu15 · Sep 30, 2018

Rogue Leader :

I am considering going forward with your suggestion of purchasing the PCI-E to SATA Adapter, and turn the M.2 SSD into a normal SATA SSD, but if I want to use the SSD as boot means I plug the SSD into the mobo's onboard SATA ports right, and the other hard drives I move them onto the PCI-E to SATA adapter? Did I catch that correctly?

kerberos_20 · Sep 30, 2018

u can use addin sata card, it will boot, your bios supports it (if we still talk about asm1061)

Rogue Leader · Sep 30, 2018

supermanu15 :

Rogue Leader :

I am considering going forward with your suggestion of purchasing the PCI-E to SATA Adapter, and turn the M.2 SSD into a normal SATA SSD, but if I want to use the SSD as boot means I plug the SSD into the mobo's onboard SATA ports right, and the other hard drives I move them onto the PCI-E to SATA adapter? Did I catch that correctly?

Yes exactly

supermanu15 · Oct 31, 2018

So I decided to purchase this:
https://shopee.ph/BB-2-Port-PCIe-PCI-Express-to-SATA3.0-SATA-III-Expansion-i.77516262.1533492105

Returned, does not detect any of my drives in BIOS so I figured I order another one thinking the previous one was defective and ordered this:
https://shopee.ph/BB-PCIe-PCI-Express-to-6G-SATA3.0-4-Port-SATA-III-Expansion-i.77516262.1533492264

Still did not work, when I have it plugged in, my Proxmox server keeps rebooting when I have 1 drive(the 2 TB Boot drive) connected to the onboard sata port and the other drive onto the PCIE to SATA Expansion card, giving up, so might as well just expand the capacity and purchase another hard drive and replace the 2TB one as I am also having intramfs issues with it. WIll check on hard drive sentinel with regards to my WD 2TB HDD health. Thanks for all your responses!

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