Is my Ryzen 5 slow?

sonic_boom81

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I have a Ryzen 5 2600 overclocked to 3.8GHz, and GTX 1050ti overclocked, and 16 GB 2400 RAM.

I get 60fps at 1080p on high settings for most 3D for games like Doom 2016, etc. But games like Planet Coaster or Two Point Hospital, which are CPU intensive the fps are in the 30-40s even when I drop to medium settings as soon as the level starts to get complicated...

I upgraded from an 8 core FX which was overclocked, and I just thought Ryzen 5 would be more powerful than what I'm seeing? Other than running some games at 60fps where my FX maybe only hit 30-45fps, almost everything else with the PC speeds is hardly noticeable. Actually booting up takes longer.
 
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From your results it doesn't seem to be an issue with your cpu but moreso a game issue-a quick google search showed that quite a few people have issues with two point hospital so perhaps its a game optimisation issue. Have you tried a clean install of your display drivers perhaps?

To answer your other question, yes a 1060 (6gb) will be a much better match for the 2600. I am running a 1600 paired with a gtx 1080 and I have no complaints.

atomicWAR

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Trying dropping the resolution and setting as low as they go in the games your having trouble with. This will tell you how fast your CPU (minimum maybe a hair faster if CPU is not at 100% utilization on the primary thread or multiple threads on well threaded games) can render those games at any resolution assuming the GPU is up to the task. Once you know these number you can tweak your graphics settings accordingly to get the best frame rate. Dropping to medium settings by itself is not enough to test this.
 

sonic_boom81

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I did reinstall Windows after the upgrade yeah.

I tried before dropping the resolution to 720p on Two Point Hospital, and while it gives better frame rates it looks really bad on my monitor.
 

atomicWAR

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The drop in settings is meant to be temporary. It is good news though because you know your CPU can go faster. Anyways time to tweak some more. So raise the resolution to 1080P and now use the low settings. If your frame rate is still good next step if not lower the resolution some until you find something that gives you a better frame rate. Once the resolution is set and assuming you have more GPU horse power on tap one by one raise the in game settings until you can no longer maintain the frame rate you want then back off to the setting that did work at the frame rate you did want. At that point I set Vsync and am done with things unless I find another part in the game that needs me to lower settings further. At the end of the day your GPU is no work horse. The GTX 1050 is the lowest end card for gaming would use. You are only a partial step above that so you can't expect miracles either.
 

sonic_boom81

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Here's my results with testing a few things:


Two Point Hospital:
1080p High 25-45fps CPU 35-60% GPU 55-60% CPU 42C GPU 42C
720p High 25-45fps CPU 35-60% GPU 55-60% CPU 42C GPU 42C
1080p Very low 45-55fps CPU 32-55% GPU 28% CPU 42C GPU 32C
720p Very low 45-55fps CPU 32-55% GPU 28% CPU 42C GPU 32C
Results between resolutions almost identical


DOOM 2016:
1080p Ultra 60fps (locked) CPU 30% GPU 80%

Nier Automata:
1080p High 30-35fps CPU 10% GPU 100%
1080p Low 50fps CPU 10% GPU 100%

Tomb Raider 2006 benchmark:
1080p Ultimate 50fps CPU 10% GPU 60-70%

GTA5:
1080p High 50-55fps CPU 30% GPU 100%

Planet Coaster:
1080p Low 60fps (locked) CPU 30% GPU 80%
1080p Medium 50-60fps CPU 35% GPU 80-100%

Looks to me that out of the games I tried only Two Point Hospital is starting to push the CPU, but it's Two Point Hospital that isn't pushing the GPU that much.
Am I better to pair my Ryzen 5 2600 OC with a GTX 1060? I only want 1080p 60fps as much of my gaming is through Steam Link, and my computer monitors are 1080p 60Hz and I don't plan to upgrade atm.




 
From your results it doesn't seem to be an issue with your cpu but moreso a game issue-a quick google search showed that quite a few people have issues with two point hospital so perhaps its a game optimisation issue. Have you tried a clean install of your display drivers perhaps?

To answer your other question, yes a 1060 (6gb) will be a much better match for the 2600. I am running a 1600 paired with a gtx 1080 and I have no complaints.
 
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PdxPetmonster

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I have a feeling its the 1050 holding you back some on your FPS. I play a ton of Planet Coaster, and when I get a large enough sized park, it can begin to drop my frames a bit (2700X OC'd to 4.1ghz, 1070ti, 1440p Ultrawide). More than likely, a 1060 will suit that CPU a bit better at 1080p in my opinion.
 

sonic_boom81

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It was a clean install of Windows 10 and updated drivers. It does look like poor game optimisation with Two Point Hospital.

Looks like I'll be needing a better GPU. I had a 750ti which ran games up to about 2013 well - looks like a 1050ti runs games up to about 2016 well, but isn't great for current games.
 

sonic_boom81

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Even with the GTX 1060 6GB, which works great on other games, Two Point Hospital shows no improvements over when I tested it with the 1050 Ti. It just uses a bit less of the GPUs power (about 30%+)
 

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I know this is an old thread, but if you are still having issues with Two Point or other games you need to look at individual CPU core utilization. DirectX 11 and older games can ONLY utilize a single core for all of their draw call. Even DirectX 12 games may not be properly multi-threaded. When you just look at overall CPU utilization it is just showing an average of all cores. You likely have one core at 100% utilization.