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Hello,
I was thinking to buy a B450 and a RYZEN 2600 for next month, with this ram (2 modules):

https://www.amazon.es/HyperX-FURY-Memoria-2400-DDR4/dp/B01D8U2BKA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1523365249&sr=8-1&keywords=HX424C15FB2%2F8&th=1&psc=1

But yesterday a retailer from my town lowered the prices on some RAMs, and this is one that is really interesting:

https://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-3000-pc-24000-16gb-2x8gb-cl15

It is a 3000mHz RAM. It appears on the website of the mobo(by the way, it is a B450 Gaming Po Carbon AC, from MSI) that the RAM works perfectly, and I have seen many videos on youtube working with it.

I am going to use the XMP, as I have read, but my question is if the PC eill work until when I arrive to the BIOS screen.
Thanks

PD:sorry if the question sounds too
dumb, but I want to ensure of everything since a friend made the same build and he had to return the mobo due to compatibility issues.
Also, sorry if you don't understand something, I'm spanish.
 
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Not a dumb question at all. Yes 3000 Mhz should work fine and outperform the former. If you want to go higher than 3000 Mhz- then there might be an issue. (some have reported it although from what I read earlier people also reported 3200 MhZ working just fine). As far as XMP, - I will leave this to a more experienced person, I have never actually enabled it to know how appreciable the difference is and if there are any issues with running at higher clock speed). Great board BTW. I have a lot of respect for MSI. Good luck

Thread for reference with the same setup as your own http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3764210/ram-work-b450-mobo-ryzen-2600.html


 
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Just occurred to me. Make 100% sure, the board is updated to latest BIOS. I kinda wonder if this was the issue with your friend that you're describing. Always check what the boards supports on manufacturer site. Don't trust third party like Amazon - sometimes they are inaccurate.
 

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The problem with my friend was that he bought a B350 with a ryzen 2600, and the retailer who sold it didn't have the last BIOS, so the mobo didn't support the CPU.
 

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Oh I see... Yeah, couple of months back there was a whole thread about that on Reddit. Let's see if I can find it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8l36pe/have_they_fixed_the_bios_problem_with_ryzen_2xxx/

So definitely a good idea to inquire first what the BIOS version it ships with. Some retailers don't list it, and not everyone offers a BIOS updating service. But you could always flash your BIOS to latest version, I only rarely heard of BIOS flash backfiring, usually due to power blackouts in the area. Thankfully it never happened to me yet (knocks on the only wooden object in his house) LOL.

 

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Anyway, my (future) motherboard has bios flashback, I guess that means that I can install the bios withouth CPU,(no?). I see this on the webpage.....

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dgaUeBocar3s4HW9xkObevPMRyj4Wtg_


It means that on the 2nd BIOS version that they released, they improved memort compatiblity. How can I know that:
1) my specific memory was improved on that BIOS update on the case that my mobo comes with the older version(what takes us to 2nd question, below)


2)the BIOS version that my shop sells.
 

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Correct. Yes. You can install BIOS without CPU by pressing the flashback button. You can't know that your specific make and model will work, you can just know that its clock is compatible with board and that the DDR slots are compatible . Yes, it can on rare occasions happen that some makes of RAM won't work in certain boards but it's pretty rare. I had that issue with my old Toshiba notebook which hated Patriot RAM sticks for some reason. That same N200 notebook actually rejected 2 different manufacturers' Ram before I finally bought a make that allowed the notebook to power on. Rare, but not an impossibility. So if in doubt - get it somewhere where you can easily return it for exchange and it won't take forever. You can also Google the make and model combinations of peripherals you are intending to use to see if someone has reported assembling this exact combination before and it worked for them.
 

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I misread your question. I thought by "specific" you meant the make and model of RAM. (Not that this can't be an issue - I've seen that happen too). So. First of all - don't worry too much. At 3000 Mhz you are in the safe zone, I would be very surprised if you started having problems related to higher clock speed. Anyway, - I suppose if you want to play it perfectly safe, - your best bet is to stick with the older BIOS (if that's what your board ships with) UNLESS you start having issues. That's because from what I read, - some users reported that older Agesa versions were more stable with their particular motherboards like Gigabyte ones for example. And of course, the newer the board is, the newer the patch, - the more difficult it is to find detailed user reports on how it performs, which is why it helps to join some populous gaming forums and ask there. There is always, at the very least, a tiny bit of risk when you're building, risk which we accept when we build, which is why I suggested to not get RAM above 3000 MhZ just in case.

These very new patches like 1.0.0.4 and 1.0.0.4c aren't really about compatibility with RAM sticks with higher clock speed over 2000-s per say, this stuff is already in the past, but addressing issues like latency, improved memory overclocking for certain types of RAM, ( the с one is for better precision boost on 2000 series CPU's, whereas 1.0.0.4 is for the same on 1000 - series, etc. If you are planning to overclock you RAM, then you definitely should read about it in more details. If you want, just private message me and I can post some links, versus just digging up my rusty (biological) memory LOL.

But even if, let's say you wanted to go with 3200 Mhz RAM sticks, I strongly suspect that the worst that could happen is that your RAM may be running at 2933 or 3133 MHz instead of 3200 - not a heck of a lot of difference, really. Where you are at right now - you can breathe easy LOL
 

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Ok, thank you. You really helped me. I'm nor fannatic about overclock, I'm fannatic about things that work well :) . And yes, I meant with "specific models" what you said. I ordered that RAM.