RTX 2080 and Duel 1440P Monitors

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Hey Community I had a question I was hoping you guys could provide or direct me to an answer. I'm in the process of building a new pc and the Graphics card I'll be getting is a MSI RTX 2080 either duke or trio unsure yet. So my question is with Duel 1440p Monitors will the card have any issues or would be see a significant decrease in FPS while running games at MAX settings (Shadow of the Tomb Raider/Battlefield/Black-Ops 4/Overwatch/GTA5/) Thank you in advance.
 
Based on what benchmarking sites are showing, the 1080 Ti is both cheaper and faster at rasterizing than the 2080 except in a few cases. Once you turn on the ray tracing in the 2080, the consensus right now is performance will plummet (but there aren't any titles that folks can really benchmark yet,) making any sort of triple monitor setup for gaming out of the question in combination with ray tracing.

Dice has already scaled back the ray tracing in Battlefield V for performance reasons. Betting on good performance with ray tracing right now is not a very safe bet.

Without ray tracing, however, you have to ask yourself if the 2080 is worth it, as it generally lands close to but behind the cheaper 1080 Ti.

Only time, benchmarks, and finally your own decision can say whether paying extra for the potential of ray tracing, and the new AA algorithm NVIDIA is offering is worth the extra money.

As far as a 2080 having any issues with regular gaming using a triple monitor setup, it won't have any more issues than any other NVIDIA card doing the same, so I don't see that as an issue to worry about when considering the 2080. If however you're considering ray tracing across 3 screens, that's a pretty easy no, especially when the card is expected to struggle to ray trace even a single screen while maintaining high detail or high frame rates.
 
Answer is still relevant.

Right now, there aren't enough results to give a definitive answer on ray tracing performance in real time on the RTX cards, but it's hoped that the RTX 2080 Ti will be able to ray trace at 1080p on a single screen and maintain 60 FPS. I would expect performance to decrease in proportion with the decrease in rendering resources on the 2080 VS the 2080 Ti.

Hoping to ray trace games on any more than a single screen sounds like it's going to be out of the realm of what the first RTX cards can handle, either with high detail or high frame rate.

Otherwise, you can still play games as usual, whether on 2, 3, or more screens.
 

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What I can tell you is that I'm using a new built with a 8700k and the MSI RTX 2080 DUKE 8GB with single WQHD 1440p monitor. I started playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider yesterday and I maxed out all detail levels (no v-sync, since my monitor is G-Sync). In the first 3 hours playing I had between 88fps and 105fps with my overclocked DUKE, depending of the game location/situation in 1440p. But it sits pretty much on ca. 97 fps most of the times.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider graphic setting is on highest preset (HIGHEST). Also I set the Screen Space Contact Shadows to the highest setting as well, since its not on the highest value under the highest preset.

If you have more questions about the gaming performance (since I have the video card that you are considering) feel free to send me a PM.

How do you plan to use your dual screens. Game on one screen, other screen for other stuff like streaming, desktop, internet, etc. Or do you want to through the game on actual 2 screens and enhance your field of view? In that case: I would assume that you can just divide my frame rates by two, if you play with dual 1440p monitors. Technically, if you planning to play games in highest maxed out graphics settings with 60fps or more you might be disappointed. Two WQHD screens have about 900.000 pixel more than one 4k display. The RTX 2080 will not be able to produce 60fps in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Even the RTX 2080Ti only can do about 59fps average in SotTR. Dual WQHD screens are pretty demanding for gaming. That said, if you turn down graphic options you probably will get it going with your dual 1440p screens.

 

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I just bought a RTX 2080 after reading pretty much every review out there. According pretty much all the reviews, the RTX is about 5% faster than the GTX1080Ti in DirectX11 (with some exceptions), always faster with DirectX12, and significant faster with VULKAN API (Jesus, tested Wolfenstein II in "Mein Leben" presets, I capped frames at 144 and GPU utilization is just 60%...AWESOME). And it comes with Tensor which will make it much more faster down the road when DLAA is getting implemented. I don't care about ray tracing. Prices for the GTX 1080ti are already going up again. Looks like stocks getting low. I just couldn't get myself to buy the older card. Especially since I have kinda high hopes for the DLAA.

Well, it's not cheap. But it is also not that much more expensive than a 1080Ti.

 

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2x1440p is 88% of the amount of pixels as 4K. To get a rough idea of the performance you'll get, look at the 2080 benchmarks for 4k and then multiply the FPS by 1.25.

Do you really want to do a dual monitor setup for gaming, wouldn't that result in a seam/bezel right in the middle of your field of vision?
 

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sorry, you are right. my math was a little off!

Yes, I was thinking the same way. 2 screens for gaming makes no sense. 3 screens do, for flight simulations etc. But not for Tomb Raider....
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The Idea was to duel screen game, but after reading some of these responses duel doesnt seem to make sense because the break in mid screen so I'd say Single gaming monitor and 2nd as a streaming or browser screen
as for the build its going to be a

i7 8086k, Aorus 2080, Hyperx predator DD4 3600 16g, Aorus gaming 5 mobo, EVGA 1000GQ psu and a Thermaltake view 71 case.

a follow up question is will the GPU be able to fit Vertically in the View 71 and if so will have enough space for ventilation or will its size cause higher temps? from what I gathered the GPU is 5.29inches or 134mm in Width. I've yet to find any specs on maximum width allowance on the view 71 vertical mounting bracket.
 

mjbn1977

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You will be fine......i7-8series with RTX 2080 will rock, that's the combo I have. That will give you awesome performance with 1440p. I play Kingdom Come Deliverance in 1440 on Ultra High Settings and as long I am not in a big town, the frame rate is always around 70fps (that's pretty good for that game)
 

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Lengthwise you are good:
VGA length limitation:
310mm(With HDD Rack)
410mm(Without HDD Rack)

In regards to the width it shouldn't be a problem. As you stated the cards width is 5.29inches, which is common and should fit in most cases. Your case is 10.8 inches wide so I don't see why it wouldn't fit.
 

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Can everyone just wait with buying new crap. Just wait until benchmarks and tests are done, also waiting can help lower the price a bit. ALSO, waiting will get ray tracing to more games and therefore let you know if the 2080ti is actually worth it.
 

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Hey Milhouse!!! What is your problem? All benchmarks and tests are done and out there. Nobody mentioned Ray Tracing and those cards perform very well without it. Can you even imagine that some people are in the need for a new high end video card and feel ok to spend the money. Even so ray tracing and DLAA is not available yet? Nobody has to buy those cards, but everyone who wants to can. Also, the cards are not crap, they might be overpriced. But that's a different story and everyone can decide for himself if he or she wants to spend the money.

My overclocked RTX 2080 performs very well and coming from a 970 it increased my rasterized gaming experience by a factor of 2.4 (or 140% more fps in average). And we are not even talking Ray Tracing.
 

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We don't exactly know how much the 2080ti effected by two 1440p monitors. And my other points still stand, pricing and ray tracing.
 

mjbn1977

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First of all, the question was about the 2080 and not the 2080ti. Second, we know pretty well how it will be affected by two 1440p monitores. Just take the 4k bench marking results and multiply them roughly by 1.15 and you know the dual screen performance. Also, prices will come down automatically as soon the GTX 1080ti and 1080 will be sold out. And in more and more stores its getting harder to find them. In a couple of weeks they will be gone (Nvidia is not making them anymore) and you basically will see the cards closer to MSRP.

Second, of course the RTX cards will help ray tracing to get going in games. If no cards are available to render ray tracing in normal PCs, game developers will not start really to make games with ray tracing since there wouldn't be a market of players with ray tracing capable hardware. Also, game developers need hardware able to run their developed stuff....not every developer can afford $80.000 machines that can do it without something like RTX.

Will RTX fulfill all ray tracing dreams right away? no, probably not. I might not be really perfect the first few years. But it doesn't hurt to get the ray tracing train going. And again, nobody is required to buy RTX cards at this point. Buying something is optional, not a law.

One last thing about RTX pricing (since we are really off topic), the main reason why the prices are so high is that Nvidia has no real competition in the high end video game market right now. As long ATI is not coming out with cards that play in the same performance league, I am not really surprised that Nvidia is asking a couple hundred bucks more for their cards. Remember....the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080ti where not necessarily cheap at their launches neither. Those cards are called "enthusiast cards" for a reason. The only reason you could find really affordable 1080ti's recently was that retail companies wanted to clear out their inventory.
 

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I've never heard of any reviewer benchmarking at 2x1440p (except maybe some random on youtube), so waiting for benchmarks to see "exactly know how much the 2080ti effected by two 1440p monitors" is pointless. The best we can do is estimate based on 4K performance, as has been done in this thread.
 

Viperk8b

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Well the main point of my post was to discover if the card was capable and if it would fit in my case. As to the reason I'm going with the 2080 is I have a 970 now and since I wanted to get a new build the 2080 is where I feel comfortable at price point, performance and future proofing. So in the end I'd have a card that's capable and if I would prefer to use ray tracing I have that option to, I've already conceded to the idea of one monitor to game on so the duel screen question is out the window.