Need Advice, what should be priority GPU or Monitor First?

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Hello guys,

I'm a newbie PC builder. I built my PC 3 years ago with a specification:
-GTX970
-i7 6600 (non K ver)
-Mobo B150m MSI
-16GB RAM
-21" 60hz ips monitor 1920 x 1080 standard

This year (approximately December) I already decided to upgrade one of my part of PC rig as I got year end bonus from my boss and want to use it for upgrading one part of my rig.

My problem is..

I don't know what to buy first, whether it is GPU first (upgrading to GTX 1080 or any amd counterpart suggestion also fine)
or
Buying new Monitor (27" , 1440p, 144hz, g-sync)

I need advice badly since I don't really know what to do at this point..
My budget can only cover one of the part.
Should I buy it this year?.. or should I wait until I can buy both at the same time.. or should I just save my money until newer cheaper version comes out?

Any suggestion will be welcome! Thanks!
 
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The RTX 2070 will likely be launching for a higher price than the GTX 1080 is currently selling for, and I suspect it will only offer roughly similar performance to the GTX 1080 in most existing games, so the 1080 might not drop drastically in price right away.

One thing that's still unknown is how well the RTX card's new features like raytracing and DLSS will perform though, in the games that support those features. So far, those features simply aren't available yet, but it's likely that some games will add support for them over the coming months. How good they end up being could affect how much of an impact those cards have on the GTX 1080's price, so it's difficult to say for absolute certain right now. If the features turn out...
You could do either really. But I would say the monitor first because going past 60fps on a 60Hz monitor doesn't really give you any upgrade. With G-Sync and 144Hz and 1440p is very nice it gives extra detail and you can still run fairly high settings.
 

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I would advise you to upgrade your gpu first. If you upgrade the monitor first, games that you used to be able to play may not run or run well at the very least. If you upgrade the gpu first, your monitor will not use all of the power, but a bottleneck like that is still better than not being able to play games with.
 
Yeah, 1440p is more demanding due to the GPU needing to render more pixels. In general, you'll get around 30% lower frame rates at the same settings at 1440p compared to 1080p. And a GTX 970 isn't exactly a great card for running the latest games at 1440p, so you probably won't benefit from the high refresh rate in most newer titles.

As another possibility, maybe it would be worth making a compromise, and getting a graphics card upgrade, plus something like a 24" 144Hz 1080p screen without G-sync, which can be found at much lower prices, with some as little as US $200. I'm not sure if that would fit into your budget though.
 
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Thank you for your answer. My main concern is the monitor price as it is a bit higher than buying a 1080 gpu in my country.
This is not a problem to be honest, however I'm afraid that the monitor price will go down in fair amount in the next 1-2 years. This also applies to the GPU itself. Which one do you think whose margin will go lower than each other? the GPU or the Monitor? as RTX 2070 and AMD Vega almost out, Will 1080 price go down a lot? What do you think? I'm always open to suggestion. Thank you!
 
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Thank you for your answer! was thinking about buying the GPU first too tbh.. however the main concern of buying the gpu first is that the GTX 970 is fine in 1080p, therefore buying a GTX1080 in 1080p is a bit overkill therefore I wouldn't notice much of a difference in term of performance. Also will the GTX 1080 price go down a lot since GTX 2070 and AMD Vega almost out?
If I buy the monitor first, can I play using 1080p resolution without looking janky or awkward in the 2k monitor?
 
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Thank you for your answer! my budget can only cover 1 monitor or 1 GPU at the price range of USD 650 max.. Yes, I notice that going high - ultra graphic will not nett me more than 50-60 FPS in newer games even in 1080p, I assume even worse in 1440p, however for some lesser graphic intense games I can net up to 100-120 fps.

In terms of price, which one will you think will go down lower than before? the GPU or the Monitor? Perhaps it'll be the best choice to just buy the one with the most stable price first, then buy the other when the price goes lower..
I'm open to any suggestion! Thank you!
 
The RTX 2070 will likely be launching for a higher price than the GTX 1080 is currently selling for, and I suspect it will only offer roughly similar performance to the GTX 1080 in most existing games, so the 1080 might not drop drastically in price right away.

One thing that's still unknown is how well the RTX card's new features like raytracing and DLSS will perform though, in the games that support those features. So far, those features simply aren't available yet, but it's likely that some games will add support for them over the coming months. How good they end up being could affect how much of an impact those cards have on the GTX 1080's price, so it's difficult to say for absolute certain right now. If the features turn out to be great, it's possible that you might even want to consider going with a 2070 instead, provided it isn't priced too unreasonably compared to the GTX 1080.

Or perhaps AMD will launch new cards sometime during the coming months that are more competitive in this performance range. Not a lot is known about AMD's next cards, or when exactly they will be coming though. In regard to that, AMD's cards utilize FreeSync rather than Nvidia's proprietary G-Sync to enable adaptive sync, and since it's something of a standard that doesn't require an additional chipset in the monitor, FreeSync monitors tend to cost less. Unfortunately, AMD's cards can't support G-Sync, and Nvidia isn't willing to support FreeSync, so if you want to utilize adaptive sync, you'll currently need to get a monitor that supports the appropriate technology for the card you end up going with.

Also, I'm not sure exactly how pricing compares where you are, but in the US, prices of GTX 1080s have already been coming down in recent months, at least at online stores. There's also the 1070 Ti worth considering, which is more of a pared down 1080, and is generally closer in performance to that card than to the 1070.

It's kind of difficult to say for certain right now what the stability of pricing for graphics cards will be like over the coming months. I suspect that monitor pricing might remain a bit more stable, though. However, I'm not sure that your 970 will have the performance to run 1440p particularly well in many games.
 
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Thanks a lot for the answer! I am able to conclude a solution. Based on your answer I think it's best to wait for another half a year to see the performance of RTX in newer games as well as to see the new counterpart of Nvidia RTX by AMD. Yes, you're right the price of G Sync monitor is significantly higher therefore I would spend more in the long run if I were to choose Nvidia GPU. For the stable monitor pricing, I think it'd be best if I just buy a 1440p monitor first for now (since I assume it'll be able to run 1980 x 1020 without any problem).. then buy the GPU later.

Out of topic : Do you think I need to upgrade other parts of my computer for eliminating possible bottleneck if I were to choose RTX and counterpart cards? (u guys don't have to answer this though I already got my solution for the topic, but If you guys are willing to, I'd be much appreciated) (sorry for my english.. I tried my best)
 
For the most part your i7-6700 (is that correct? you said 6600 but that would be an i5), your i7 would be good enough as well as 16GB RAM. You could get more performance out of the i7-7700K, but it isn't necessary and I would recommend waiting until you decide to go with a full system upgrade to a platform with higher core count CPUs. Did you ever mention what power supply you have?
 
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Thank you and sry for the late reply..
Ah yes.. mistake on my part. It's supposed to be i7 - 6700. My Power supply is corsair cx600.
I see.. higher core count than i7 should be i9 right? if it's true it's extremely expensive.. haha.
 
I agree that an i7-6700 is still a pretty good processor. The majority of games still don't make heavy use of more than four cores, and that processor's Hyperthreading should help it with games that utilize more cores than that. The current-generation i7s are clocked higher, which could help frame rates when a game's performance is CPU-limited, but in recent games at high settings, you are most often going to be limited by graphics performance with a GTX 970 at 1080p, or a GTX 1080 / RTX 2070 at 1440p. So it's probably fine to hold off a while on a CPU upgrade.