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equilibrium814

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Is 1x8gb PAINFUL when playing Battlefield1 or black ops 4? If so, can 16gb last 5 years?
System: rx580 8gb 2x8 2400mhz
Ryzen2200g corsair vs450w Asus prime a320k
 
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With a 2200g your capping your FPS by quite a bit.
-15% from not being able to overclock the CPU " A320 board instead of a B350/450"
-10% From using 2400mhz RAM instead of 3000-3200mhz RAM

The only good news here is A320 boards support memory overclocking but that is going to be limited by the RAM itself. Ram using Hynix or Micron chips tend to not overclock as high or at all on Ryzen. Value RAM " Unbranded with no heat sinks" are generally Micron as well.

8Gb of RAM is the minimum you can go on W10 and modern games, it's usable but you have to shut every possible app down that you don't need and even then your going to run into issues. Unfortunate that 3000mhz and 3200mhz sticks are generally only sold in pairs so planning to buy one...
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Your not just limited by the single stick but also the low speed, Ryzen performs much better with 3000/3200mhz. Another possible issues is that even if you buy another exact stick there's no guarantee it will even work. Plus the locked motherboard and no CPU overclocking is hurting your performance.
 
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Realistically, you're going to be hindered morseo by the 1x8GB opposed to "only" 8GB total.
Preference would be 2x8GB in most cases but, if you're on an extreme budget, 2x4GB would suffice.
Dual channel & higher memory speeds are really beneficial with Ryzen - although not 100% sure how the A320 boards do with 3000-3200MHz RAM.

Have you already purchased these components? The A320K will likely need a BIOS update to support the 2200G - and the VS450 is pretty poor.
 
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delaro

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With a 2200g your capping your FPS by quite a bit.
-15% from not being able to overclock the CPU " A320 board instead of a B350/450"
-10% From using 2400mhz RAM instead of 3000-3200mhz RAM

The only good news here is A320 boards support memory overclocking but that is going to be limited by the RAM itself. Ram using Hynix or Micron chips tend to not overclock as high or at all on Ryzen. Value RAM " Unbranded with no heat sinks" are generally Micron as well.

8Gb of RAM is the minimum you can go on W10 and modern games, it's usable but you have to shut every possible app down that you don't need and even then your going to run into issues. Unfortunate that 3000mhz and 3200mhz sticks are generally only sold in pairs so planning to buy one 1X8 stick and adding another down the line is hard to do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($124.99 @ Newegg)

That is about the cheapest you're going to find and generally, they work fine with the latest Bios updates. Both sets will run @2993mhz as a worst-case scenario even when you have an issue. I don't see us needing more than 16G of RAM for quite a long time unless you try VR gaming, 16G should outlast your Ryzen platform.

 
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If you have already bought parts, try them.

Otherwise, I suggest you buy all the ram you might want up front in a 2 x ?? kit.
Ram is sold in kits for a reason.
A motherboard must manage all the ram using the same specs of voltage, cas and speed.
The internal workings are designed for the capacity of the kit.
Ram from the same vendor and part number can be made up of differing manufacturing components over time.
Some motherboards, can be very sensitive to this.
This is more difficult when more sticks are involved.
That is why ram vendors will NOT support ram that is not bought in one kit.

Since you will be using a discrete graphics card, ram speed is not quite as important.
Still, ryzen responds to faster ram.

Ryzen is picky about ram.
Use due diligence in your research.
Not all DDR4 ram will work.

You want documented ram compatibility. If you should ever have a problem, you want supported ram.
Otherwise, you risk a finger pointing battle between the ram and motherboard support sites, claiming "not my problem".
One place to check is your motherboards web site.
Look for the ram QVL list. It lists all of the ram kits that have been tested with that particular motherboard.
Sometimes the QVL list is not updated after the motherboard is released.
For more current info, go to a ram vendor's web site and access their ram selection configurator.
Enter your motherboard, and you will get a list of compatible ram kits.

I might also suggest you re-evaluate the purchase of a apu processor when you intend to use a discrete graphics card.
The 2200g is a very good processor for what it is, but I wonder if you might be better off with a normal ryzen processor.
 
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@Barty1884
I'm not building, I am buying. Is the difference between 2400mhz and 3000 that significant? Since it is prebuilt, the a320's bios is surely updated . Although the corsair vs450w is weak, it should barely be enough for the system to be stable. Will picking 2x8gb 3000mhz be a sensible choice( although this will take a lot of persuasion towards my parents)?
As for Overclocking, I can't be bothered: my psu js weak and I am only using the standard heatsink. Thanks

 
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delaro

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If it's a prebuilt do they offer a i3 8100 + a GPU? That would offer a better experience over a 2200G with slower ram and a handicap A320 board. FPS difference between a 2400-3200 on a Ryzen chip can be between 5-15 depending on the titles. I suggest you read a few reviews of that and see for yourself.


Toms's How Much Does Memory Impact Gaming review

AnAndTech Review

PCPerspective Review
 
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Ordered a ryzen3 2200g a320mk corsair vs 450w 8x2gb 2400mhz for £642- i3 8100 is way over range. I'm sure the low speed ram isn't that bad and the corsair vs 450w can work according to the psu wattage calculator.
 
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Barty1884

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The low speed RAM certainly can be that bad - although the fact you've opted for dual channel will certainly be beneficial.

As for the VS450, nobody said it couldn't work. Just that there were better options available.
If you still have an RX580 in there, don't expect it to work indefinitely. PSUs degrade with time, and not all PSUs degrade equally. The VS is a pretty poor unit (although a sizeable step above outright junk) and may not be up to the task for too, too long.
 
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