HELP ! Dont know if I can OC or not!!

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abdulkhanaot1

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Hi guys
I bought a used Nvidia Gtx 560 ti and Im not sure if I should OC it. I had a Radeon 6770 OCed before that and it worked fine. Im afraid my PSU will blow..

My specs are:
AMD Athlon X3 450 3.2Ghz OCed to 3.6Ghz.
Asrock 970 Extreme4
450W PSU 80+ gold
GTX 560 Ti
2 Cooling fans
2 500GB 2.5" HDD
Wireless card
8GB corsair RAM.

According to PC part picker my rig takes up 414W. My CPU is OCed already to it must be near 430W. Can i OC my GPU too? or should I return my CPU to stock speeds and undervolt it.
Also, I tried unlocking the 4th core but it seems that my x3 dosent have one... strange.
 
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Actually, I recommend getting a proper fan for your case. But if you must use the fan from the Dell case (and it has a compatible connector and wired the same), use it as a rear fan. Hot air rises and will be pulled out near the upper reaches of the case. Besides, using as a side fan means you have to remember it is there everytime you remove the side panel or you'll snap the wires.

The PWR header is fine to use. It just has no...
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The GTX 560 Ti normally requires a 500W PSU or better. So, I'd say you're at peak load now when both the CPU and GPU are at high usage. What is the make and model of the 450W Gold PSU? I'll check the specs on it.

All Athlon II X3 CPUs have a (disabled) 4th core. The Denebs (XXXXX AC) also have the 6 MB L3 cache. The Ptopus (XXXXX AD) don't have the L3 cache. How did you attempt to unlock the 4th core?
 
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PSU is an amazon super flower 450W 80+Gold.
I reset my CPU to stock speeds now.
There's something called turbo UCC when i load up the BIOS. The I turn it on, my PC shuts down, turns on again then shuts down again. I press the power button and eventually it boots up with UCC enabled. But the 4th core wont unlock though. It wont detect the 4th core with UCC enabled or not.
 
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The Super Flower Golden Green 450W is an excellent small PSU. With its 444W+12v rail and VRM regulating, it is as strong as a good, solid 500W. So in this case, you are safe. I would not have any qualms OC'ing the GPU with that PSU.

As to the disabled 4th core, it sounds to me like its simply a matter of the core being defective. That's why it was disabled unfortunately. Too bad. The extra core would make a difference in today's games. Your motherboard can handle some much stronger CPUs. If you can't afford to upgrade to a new platform altogether, then I would start saving for a faster CPU next, followed by an even better gfx card.

UCC = Unlock CPU Core
Make sure you have OC Mode set to manual instead of auto in BIOS. Otherwise UCC may try to OC when it unlocks. That may be what is causing the bootup problem. But it sounds like a bad core.
 
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Its still over 450W right? I downclocked my cpu to 2.8ghz and undervolted down from 1.4 to 1.2.
Will it hold if i fully OC my gpu now?

Also.. I havnt got cash for a build... i literally got the pc for free and the gtx for €20...
 
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I had the GPU OCed at 1.2Ghz which gave me 87fps at those settings but I got a driver BSOD an hour later. So these settings are fine for me. Im not going to unlock the 4th core, my PSU simply wont be able to handle.
 
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Yes, the PSU is rated for 450W. The +12v rail is the most important rail of all and needs to have the greatest capacity of all the rails. It handles all the heavy load items like the CPU, GPU, drive motors, fan motors, etc. That is why you always want to look for the +12v rating when you buy a PSU for gaming.
 
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I don't see any 1440x1080. Did you mean 1920x1080?
A stronger PSU is always better if you plan on upgrading eventually. But your 450W will handle a modern GTX 1060 6GB if you would go that route some day.
 
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1920x1080 yes, one more thing, i took a case fan out of my old dell pc but the wire is way too short and only reaches the PWR_fan but not the CHA_fan which is on the other side on the mobo. Do you recommend placing the rear fan as the side fan or just plug it in the PWR_fan at the back of the pc?
 
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Actually, I recommend getting a proper fan for your case. But if you must use the fan from the Dell case (and it has a compatible connector and wired the same), use it as a rear fan. Hot air rises and will be pulled out near the upper reaches of the case. Besides, using as a side fan means you have to remember it is there everytime you remove the side panel or you'll snap the wires.

The PWR header is fine to use. It just has no control in BIOS and probably runs at full RPM all the time.
 
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Considering your hardware, it doesn't look bad. Way back when I had a Athlon II X3 450 and a HD-5770, my score in Heaven (Version 2.5) at 1680x1050 was only 583. The visual settings were set a little different, the Win version was different, but close enough to make an educated assumption.
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Ok one more problem. I bought 2 500GB HDDs WD Green WD5000AVVS. I bought them used from a Top seller stating that they were perfect. I hook it up to my Asrock 970 extreme4 , but BOTH of them dont work. They are recognized in BIOS and disk management. The space is unallocated and when I try to initialize it, it gives an I/O error. S.M.A.R.T passed flawlessly, and the disk testers give it a pass in testing. It dosent initialize what I do :-(. I have it set to IDE since my primary HDD(not these 2) gives a BSOD on AHCI. Is it a Sata 3.0 clash?
Thanks :)
 
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You're running W10? Then how come the Heaven benchmark you posted the other day says the platform is Windows NT?
If you're running W10, there's no reason the drives shouldn't work if they are any good. Can you test them on another machine first?

There's no such thing as a SATA 3 clash. The SATA interface is backward/forward compatible. The drives may have been pre-formatted in UEFI mode and your system is running in legacy BIOS mode... or visa versa.
 
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First, on the HDDS...
Do you know if your OS was installed UEFI or legacy? Check in System Information and look for Bios Mode.

As to the CPU upgrade..
A resounding YES. And that's before you OC the FX-8350 with a simple multiplier bump. Just be sure your board's BIOS is version P2.60 or later before you swap CPUs. I'd be totally surprised if it wasn't.
The FX-8350 is selling at retail for ~$80 now. Even less used. I still have one of my FX-8350 rigs. Just stuck my old GTX 980 in it, in fact.
 
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