2080ti FE Whining and Overheating (86c)

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Hi All,

After only a few hours playing around and stress testing my founders edition 2080 ti I'm noticing a decent amount of coil whine, and more importantly overheating.

I didn't mess with any overclocking or custom fan curves yet. I went from a EVGA 1080 FTW that experienced very little to no coil whine at never would go past 70c under load.

This FE 2080ti is buzzing so load I can hear it from the doorway of my office. After 2 seperate stress tests of Fire Strike I got an 88% and a 94% stability rating ( I think 97% is considered stable). The reason for the instability is frame rates which most definitely is thermal throttling because the GPU his 86-88c during the test.

What steps would you take if you were me? I want to exhaust all possible solutions before beginning the dreaded RMA process.

Current Setup
R7 2700x (not OC'd)
Kraken x42 (front mounted)
ASRock AB350M Pro4
G skills 16gb RAM
Seasonic FOCUS 850w 80+ Gold PSU
Meshify C mini
3x additional be silent fans (2 top, 1 exhaust)
2080ti FE
 
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So your 1080 would definitely run cooler for a couple of reasons, but to simplify the answer the reason is the TDP of the 1080 stock gpu is 180w compared to the 260W of the stock 2080 ti (OC versions can be 300W or more). It is not far fetched to consider that your card could reach into the 80c range, but it does seem like something is wrong with your particular unit anyway considering the sounds it was making. Techpowerup reports 77c as the load temp for the 2080 ti FE and that may be in an open-air test setup, I believe. I did notice that the top critical complaint on Newegg for the Meshify C Mini (white version) is that it gets too hot inside. The reviewer said that the temp is reduced by 7c if the foam in the front filter is...
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Hi Blackbird! Yeah, I noticed that yesterday after installing the card and experiencing these issues. Had I seen that article back on Friday I would have waited! That's what I get for not waiting on jumping on the band wagon early.
 

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Some call brand new tech, bleeding edge technology. As alluring as it is, I always wait 6+ months before buying new tech.
 
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Would you return it for a new FE or just take the refund and go for something like the EVGA Ultra XC?

I know their customer support was always good to me. Plus given the size of that card, over heating wouldn't be an issue I would imagine.

 
If you want to stick with Turing get an AIB partner card, not the FE. You will have better temps and the performance of these cards is very dependent on temps. Just read the reviews, though. Some partner cards aren't any better. For example, I think the Asus Dual doesn't really have good cooling either. It's just a large aluminum block without heat pipes. I'd say go for at least a 2.5 slot + 3-fan design. How's the airflow in your case?
 


I just went through the same this you are experiencing with my FE card. I returned it and bought a EVGA Ultra XC 2080 based on people saying its a 4k/60fps capable card, which its not. Its not premium looking like the FE card but I do like the 3 slot design. Runs below 70*c in my case. I'm gonna return it and try to find a ti version of it or the MSI Trio card.

 
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I have the Kraken x52 radiator mounted in the front of the Meshify C mini pulling cool air through the front of the case, through the rad, and into the case. I picked front mount because I heard top mount causes not only bad GPU temps but also bad CPU temps.

I have two 140mm be quiet silent wing 3's mounted on the top, obviously exhausting out the top of the case and then 1 120mm silent wing 3 exhausting out the back.

I know there's only about a 2-3cm distance between the rad and the GPU however the temps of the 1080 never got above 70c. This 2080ti hovers around 86c while being stress tested.
 
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That is the route I'm thinking of going for this, the XC Ultra 2080 ti. I agree that EVGA doesn't look as premium as they used to but at this point I just want something that will whine less and more importantly not turn my computer into an oven!

How was the return process for you with Nvidea? Any suggestions for me?
 


I bought my card from Best Buy. I went through the Live Chat feature on Nvidia website. Was actually very easy. I provided proof of purchase and card SN. They approved the RMA but I never got a shipping conformation. I returned the card to Best Buy and email Nvidia to cancel RMA process.
 
So your 1080 would definitely run cooler for a couple of reasons, but to simplify the answer the reason is the TDP of the 1080 stock gpu is 180w compared to the 260W of the stock 2080 ti (OC versions can be 300W or more). It is not far fetched to consider that your card could reach into the 80c range, but it does seem like something is wrong with your particular unit anyway considering the sounds it was making. Techpowerup reports 77c as the load temp for the 2080 ti FE and that may be in an open-air test setup, I believe. I did notice that the top critical complaint on Newegg for the Meshify C Mini (white version) is that it gets too hot inside. The reviewer said that the temp is reduced by 7c if the foam in the front filter is removed. My case, the Cougar QBX ITX-Mini, had a bottom filter made of material that was so poorly chosen for the task that it completely restricted air flow of the two bottom fans I had installed. I ditched the filter and the frame that held it and installed feet that lifted the case 5/8" up for better airflow.

OK, I got a bit confused because in your list of specs at the top you wrote x42, which is a single fan rad. Later you indicate the x52, which is a dual rad. So basically your gpu is getting air that is pre-warmed by the cpu. That seems to be the only intake on your case, correct? If you are into modding I would say cut a hole in the bottom of your case and put another intake fan there. Obviously if you want to keep the psu shroud you'd also need to cut a pass-thru for the cool air to reach the gpu. Maybe put a wire frame fan grill over the hole on the shroud for a finished look. Do you think you could get a hole strategically placed near the gpu without anything under the shroud getting in the way? That seems to be the only way you can get room temp air to your gpu under the current fan and cpu cooler configuration. None of this may be necessary if you get the XC2 Ultra.

The EVGA 2080 ti XC2 Ultra looks like a great card. If my build wasn't an ITX mini I would have considered it more seriously because of the huge cooler. Unfortunately, they put a 3-slot bracket on it. Not a huge deal and I did consider modding my case to make it fit, but availability was the other limiting factor for me. I went with the Gigabyte 2080 ti Gaming OC because it was a card on my radar and it came up before the MSI 20180 ti Duke, which was also one of my picks and very close to the Gigabyte card I ended up with.

I think you should do ok with the XC2 Ultra and it seems like you need the 3-slot cooler considering your case temp situation. I haven't read anything about it, but I would think it has similar thermal performance to the Asus 2080 ti Strix, which runs at 65c under load. I couldn't find in the review if they tested it in a case or out in the open, but here's the link: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Strix_OC/37.html
 
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Hi Mortemas. Thank you for this! Yes I in fact use a x52, not the x42 like I mentioned in my initial spec list. Your also correct that my only intake fans are the two that are in-taking the warm CPU radiator air into the case.

Being that Nvidea has yet to even reach back out with an RMA number I'm going to try what you suggested. First I'll replace the drive cage (I have an HDD in it but never even store anything on it) underneath the radiator with a third intake fan The new intake fan will clip the back 2/5's of the GPU and more likely than not increase air flow.

Then once Nvidea feels its time for me to return the card I'll either go with the Ultra, or go the Best Buy route and get the FE again but with that Geek Squad warranty so I'm covered for years.

If anyone is interested I should have the new fan in by Monday and will update this with my progress.
 
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Well there goes that idea!

So I had some fractal design stock 120mm fans laying around and installed one late last night in the area where the drive cage was. I didn't expect a fan on the bottom of my case (cm's from the desk) to make such a noticeable improvement to the GPU temps! With Timespy and Firestrike stress tests the card doesn't go over 81c now! I'm also hovering around a passing score (95.6% stable).

I'm starting to think this card might not be as defective as I first thought. The coil whine is still DEFINITELY there but I'm going to try running a bunch of 3D mark stress tests this weekend to see if it lessens.

If I can get the noise level down to where its bearable do you guys think that my card should be RMA'd? (bad whine, but 81c on load)
 
Great to hear you got your temps down! I didn't realize you already had a spot for a fan under the hdd bay, so no mod required there. And looking at pics of your case on Newegg I see that there is a grill on the psu cover so the air can get through. Any room temperature air that you can introduce near the gpu will make it cooler, so that is why the intake fan at that location had an effect. Heat travels from where there is more to where there is less, so if you introduce air that is cooler than what's already in there, and it makes it into the gpu intake, then the cooler air will absorb more heat and bring down your gpu temp. The factory temp limit is 88c but your card is still running a bit hot at 81c and I think that will affect your max clock speed. I've been experimenting a lot with my Gigabyte card as my return window fast approaches. I did have a few bumps in the road myself. I think I'm sticking with it. I've got it running at 76c at 4k/60Hz with vsync on. I believe vsync reduces power consumption and temperature due to limiting the amount of frames rendered. If you haven't already, you should run the OC Scanner to get a freq/voltage curve for best performance. Also, bear in mind that if you are willing to sacrifice some clock speed/FPS you can set your own temp limit on the card. Do you have MSI Afterburner or something like it installed? Early on when I was concerned about excess heat, I set a temp limit of 70C. The consequence was that my gpu clock settled in at just under 1700 MHz. After running the OC Scanner I am getting 1900 MHz stable at 76c (24c ambient) with 60Hz vsync and 4k res. I have now set a temp limit at 77c as a safety. I do like the responsiveness of vsync off and I did play with that a bit, so I'm torn between choosing snappy response with tearing and higher temps versus slower response without tearing and lower temps. I'm going to try fastsync next. I think it will have higher temps just like vsync off, but it should fix the lag and tearing. Got some more testing to do! I would keep a close eye on the situation with the defective FE cards and not hesitate to get a partner card with better cooling if necessary because as the Tom's article shows the problem could be heat related and inherent to the reference card circuit board design. They point to a hot spot where some of the VRAM is located - actually it looks like the hottest spot on the card based on the FLIR image. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-2080-ti-gpu-defects-launch,37995.html Let us know how it goes with your card. Catch you later.

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