SSD won't boot unless via BIOS or restart

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

After installing Windows 10 on SSD, won't boot from power off.

But it will from the BIOS and if I restart from the Windows 10 menu.

This is an old Lenova H520s put in a new chassis, new PSU, new GFX card. It works fine booting from its old HD.

I've made a boot USB using Rufus 3.3 and tried twice, one selecting MBR, another using GPT as partition scheme.

It only gives me the choice to use UEFI as the target system - not CSM.

It creates the boot USB fine, windows 10 installs fine, and opens up fine. But when I go to shut down, then restart I get

Error 1962 : Non operating system found. Press any key to repeat boot sequence.

If I then F12 and play around (or not) with the boot settings it then happily boots. The same if I restart from Windows. Just not if I power down / and turn on.

So what am I doing wrong? Is it the way I create the boot USB, theway I make partitions before I install Windows?

At present the SSD has the following partitions:

Recovery 499MB NTFS Healthy (OEM partition)

100Mb EFI System Partition

106.53 Gb NTFS
(Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, primary partition)

I've seen videos with people putting SSDs into the H520s so it must be possible...

And help super appreciated.

(Note: The motherboard is a CIH61MI v1.1, which by default wants you to use CSM in the BIOS. )

Lutfij · Nov 6, 2018

You didn't need to do a Rufus drive. You could've just as easily created a bootable drive/installer using Windows Media Creation Tools. See if that route helps you, after you've set UEFI boot in BIOS. Prior to that make sure you're on the latest BIOS update for your motherboard.

Primary boot device in BIOS if successful installation of Windows 10, should be Windows Boot Manager.

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

Hi Lutfij -

The Media Creation tool was the first thing I tried, but it failed to work on the only other PC I had at home. No idea why. So that's not an option. (downloaded ISO then crashed out)

I'll have a look at BIOS updates.

Is there nothing obvious I'm screwing up?

Thanks.

das_stig · Nov 6, 2018

May sound daft, but does BIOS allow you to set a delay during drive detection, could just be too quick for it to sort itself out, but as its up to speed from the BIOS or W10 restart?

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

das_stig :

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

Hi Das_Stig

Thanks for your suggestions. Sounds plausible but it's a limited motherboard without many options. I'm trying lenova support right now but they aren't getting me anywhere.

They did tell me that there were no bios updates for the board.

smorizio · Nov 6, 2018

was the hard drive connected when you did the install?? a lot of times when there two drives installed windows installer will put the boot files on the hard drive and not on the new ssd. if both are connected.

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

smorizio :

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

Hi smorizio -

Thanks for your answer. But no, they weren't connected at the same time. In the chassis yes, but no power to HD.

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

smorizio :

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

Adding :

In the BIOS there are NO drives listed for SATA Drive 1,2,3,4 which I suspect is the issue?!

Why isn't it seeing the SSD?

misar · Nov 6, 2018

tiredboy :

You just said this but in your first post you said "If I then F12 and play around (or not) with the boot settings it then happily boots." They cannot both be correct.

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

misar :

tiredboy :

You just said this but in your first post you said "If I then F12 and play around (or not) with the boot settings it then happily boots." They cannot both be correct.

tiredboy · Nov 6, 2018

Hi Misar -

Yes I did say so - it doesn't boot from cold, but it does boot via the BIOS if you go into the BIOS and then save the settings (not having actually changed anything). But you have to go into the bios. You can't just press your power button (otherwise you get the no operating system error)

But I have solved the problem...(how is another matter)

The SSD wasn't appearing in the BIOS, and in my desperation I looked at other BIOS Drive options and the only one left was whether the drives were in AHCI mode or IDE. I naturally assumed AHCI should be the correct option, but thought what the hell... and then it tried to boot, then it switched off, then after power on it went into an attempted repair mode, then I selected start up options, then it said it tried but said it couldn't repair, then it shut down... and then after power on, it finally booted without having to go via the BIOS.,

So I have no idea what's happened, whether switching to IDE mode was the only thing needing doing or the odd repair cycle did something else. Frustrating, but at least (for now) I can finish the rebuild.

So anyway, thank to everyone who offered suggestions, questions. Great forums.

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