What parts to get for futureproofing my system?

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Hey there, this is currently my build

Corsair RM1000x - PSU
MSI R9 390 8GB gaming - GPU
AMD FX 8350 - CPU
8GB of DDR geil - RAM
BenQ RL2455HM - Monitor
Samsung 860 EVO 250GB - SSD
Toshiba DT01ACA300 - 3TB HDD
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P - MOBO
NZXT Phantom - CASE - This, but white https://s.s-bol.com/imgbase0/imagebase3/extralarge/FC/5/4/6/0/9200000035730645.jpg

I am keeping my PSU, HDD, SSD, GPU. Looking to upgrade to next gen on the CPU, mobo and ram. But I am rather clueless on to what I should update too. I am not specifically tight on money but do not want to go overboard. Preferably stick to AMD CPUs right now because I dislike Intels business practices.
I might get a 120-144hz monitor just incase, but I am not sure. I primarily play games. I would like to install a good sound card and am also looking for a high quality bluetooth headset and a bluetooth device that I can plug into my computer so that I can use my headset from my computer while walking through my apartment and doing my daily duties. (The headset is particularly important to me. I have to shower my legs 6x a day due to medical reasons and I spend most of my time doing medical things. I am keeping water away from my body so it doesn't have to be specifically water proof. Having music on me while doing everything will help me keep morale up)

Essentially, I am looking for this
Bluetooth headset
Bluetooth (signalling?) device for my PC so my PC can interact with bluetooth devices
Preferably a way to control my music while I am wearing the headset, a way besides using my PC
A new futureproof AMD CPU
32GBs of good quality ram to go along with it
A good quality soundcard so that I can actually hear the improvement on a high quality wireless headset
And at last a motherboard to fit it all
 
Solution
On the AMD side just get the 2700 or 2700x as they are quiet simply the best when it comes to price to performance. A good B450 motherboard will be a great match for the 2700x and make sure the RAM is as fast as you can afford so DDR4 3200 is the sweet spot for the Ryzen as Ryzen actually makes use of faster RAM.

On RAM, G.Skill TridentZ is great and has The Samsung B Die also the CORSAIR Vengeance is another good option...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTDEYHU/ref=dp_cerb_2

In terms of sound cards, the new motherboards, especially at the mid to high end have great quality sound built in with the ALC 1220 something like these options...
On the AMD side just get the 2700 or 2700x as they are quiet simply the best when it comes to price to performance. A good B450 motherboard will be a great match for the 2700x and make sure the RAM is as fast as you can afford so DDR4 3200 is the sweet spot for the Ryzen as Ryzen actually makes use of faster RAM.

On RAM, G.Skill TridentZ is great and has The Samsung B Die also the CORSAIR Vengeance is another good option...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTDEYHU/ref=dp_cerb_2

In terms of sound cards, the new motherboards, especially at the mid to high end have great quality sound built in with the ALC 1220 something like these options:

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Performance-Motherboard-B450-PRO/dp/B07F85YKLJ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542138993&sr=8-2&keywords=MSI+B450+Gaming+Pro+Carbon+AC

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B450-AORUS-PRO-WIFI/dp/B07FW85VFT/ref=pd_sbs_147_7?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07FW85VFT&pd_rd_r=f23d450b-e77d-11e8-95e9-cb1ec01c90a7&pd_rd_w=AV9yH&pd_rd_wg=U2DIv&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=7d5d9c3c-5e01-44ac-97fd-261afd40b865&pf_rd_r=9CKCA8RJXAA6W451J9F6&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=9CKCA8RJXAA6W451J9F6

Onto the headset, I am too good at this as not a super audiophile so hopefully someone else can jump in on this thread..

finally with Black Friday fast approaching you should be able to find some great deals as well and drop the cost a bit as well..

Opps on the sound card for your headphones a good DAC will b e the best option....something like this but there are much more cost effective options as well though if music is key than get the best DAC you can afford to drive the best sound for your headphones:

https://www.amazon.com/Audioengine-D1-24-bit-Digital-to-Analog-Converter/dp/B006IPH5H2/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1542139224&sr=8-3&keywords=dac
 
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punkncat

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Don't agree with above on CPU. At this moment, price to performance is STILL on the R7 1700 if you go AMD. At best the 2700X is only a small percentage faster, user benchmarks puts it around 20%, and is priced 50% less (cost) and more if you look around. B350 mobo is cheaper, readily available, and the "slower" RAM which is a few frames slower than the "faster" and less expensive as well.

In your position I would wait for the 'actual' 2nd gen AMD stuff to break (3xxx) and see where it's reality is in comparison.
 
Why go to a lower gen CPU? like the 1700 when the 2700 and 2700X have been reviewed and tested so well as pretty much the best CPU's for price to performance along with the 2600 series...(and this coming from an Intel user like me!!!) Anyway, my recommendation stands... I am sure others will jump in and give you some more thoughts and choices...
 

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Allow me to reiterate.


Cost 50% less. Performs at best -20%. Allow me to add, that is on STOCK clock. (obviously the other can be changed with OC as well) Less cost mobo and RAM.

By almost ALL accounts you cannot "feel" a desktop difference below 30% performance increase. It's a bragging point, and waste of money right now. Thus why I suggested 1700 or a wait to 3xxx.

 

Zerk2012

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What parts to get for futureproofing my system?

Their no such thing whatever you buy will be out of date in a year. If I was building now for mainly pure gaming it would be a i5 9600K paired with a Z390 board, 16GB of memory no reason to buy more than your going to use.
 
My apologies for stepping on you ego....Ryzen 1700X $196 vesrus Ryzen 2700 $265...More importantly it is better in every way and the whole point of her question being future proofing as best as she can now, would suggest the Ryzen 20 series as the better option...She also did say that she is not specifically tight on money and does not want to go overboard.....getting a 2700 or 2700X is not going overboard by any stretch of the imagination...

Your suggestion of waiting for Ryzen 3 is some months away and no doubt the cost will be more and moving backwards to the 1700 does not seem to cover future proofing adequately...

Any way, I have had my say, whatever choice the poster wants to make will be a good choice ultimately....
 


Absolutely agree that you cannot future proof but you can buy well so that the CPU will last you a good 3 to 4 years which in this context is future proofing to the best that one can...and buying the Ryzen 2 series over he 1st series is by far the better option all things being equal in that it's affordable has great performance with 8 cores and 16 threads providing all the future proofing needed at this time and she can upgrade to Ryzen 3 or even Ryzen 4 when the time comes....

And she does not want Intel.....

 
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Thanks for the information vMax. I'll opt for the 2700 probably, I will wait what my bff says about the 2700x first. She is an engineer and a PC enthousiast, shes more up to date with the kinds of parts they use in modern day CPUs, MOBOs, PSUs etc. She will know which brand is most likely to screw me over by using components that aren't meant to last longer then the guarantee term. I am probably going with the slower timings Corsair Vengeance 3200 RGB pro because I like colours and the guarantee term is 120 months. 5 years is a good starting guarantee term. It means I will get value for my money. For my HDDs I want 10 years atleast.
 


Thanks and have a great build...
 

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10 years on an HDD is, while not a dream, it is pushing the envelope to expect that.

You might get 20 years out of a given drive, you might get 5 weeks.
I've had both.

If you were to research the "absolute most reliable" drives, and buy 1,000 of them, you'd find a couple that failed at 2 months, and a couple that were DOA out of the box. Free warranty replacement, but the data is gone.
Sucks if yours was one of those.

backup backup backup.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3383768/backup-situation-home.html
 
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With 10 years I meant guarantee terms for the product, not the products actual life length. My samsung 860 evo 250 GB SSD has a guarantee term of like 8 years I think.
Higher guarantee terms usually mean a lower chance for the product crapping the bed too soon. Not too worried about data protection either. More the money protection. Better guarantee terms is better money protection for me.
 

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The 860 EVO is a 5 yr warranty.
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/support/warranty/

I have a 500GB one.
 
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On the site where I got it from it was 8 years, I guess Ill ask around
 

Zerk2012

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i5 9600K is currently the best pure gaming processor made.....

Much faster till you get past the 6 cores that pure gaming is not going to past and they said money was no real problem.... I think I would swallow my pride and buy performance not brand.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-9600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/4031vs3958
 


I have the 8700K and love it and more importantly no issues on Intel or AMD, just what suits my budget at the time....But in this case it is not about swallowing pride but about the persons own views, which were stated...and guess what, they are allowed to have... whether they are right or wrong does not matter...all that matters is we respect there views...Yes we can try to convince them of the value in Intel but ultimately it is up to them and certainly not about swallowing pride but an ethical choice....As buying AMD is not a bad choice at all...
 
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The I5 9600K is a nice option. But gaming for as far as I know has slowly been fluctuating to multi cores as the industry trends slowly do too.
I have been stuck to 8 cores for most of my life, but usually budget 8 cores, FX 8120, FX 8350. The 2700x will perform as well as I would ever need it to currently as I am sticking to 1080p with an MSI R9 390 8GB card.
And intel has given us years of industry stagnation and overpriced shite, so regardless they can go to hell ;p