[SOLVED] Is the I9-9900x worth the extra £372 over a I7-9820x

spikeysonic · Nov 17, 2018

Is the I9-9900x worth the extra £372

Intel® Core™ i7-9820X • 3.8 / 4.4 - 4.2 GHz • 16.50MB L3 • 8 • 16 • 2066 • £2600
Intel® Core™ i9-9900X • 3.5 / 4.4 - 4.5 GHz • 19.25MB L3 • 10 • 20 • 2066 • £2972

or given I am building a workstation for Rendering, CAD, Video Editing, Graphics etc would I be better off spending the rest of the £3000 budget on a greenscreen studio set up and or Podcasting kit?

Rhino, V-Ray, Solidworks, Premier, Maya, 3D Studio Max, Vector Works

This would be the rest of the configuration

• Case: CORSAIR GRAPHITE SERIES™ 780T FULL TOWER CASE

• Memory (RAM) : 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 8GB)

• Graphics Card : PNY QUADRO P2000 or P4000 (See Above)

• 1st M.2 SSD Drive : 1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3400MB/R, 2500MB/W)[/b]

• 1st Storage Drive: *Postponed till later date* Seagate Barracuda Pro 4tb to be in raid 1
• 2nd Storage Drive: *Postponed till later date* Seagate Barracuda Pro 4tb to be in raid 1

• DVD/BLU-RAY Drive : Postponed

• Power Supply: CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

• Processor Cooling: Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

• Thermal Paste: STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

• Sound Card: ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)[/b]

• Wireless/Wired Networking: WIRELESS 802.11 AC1750 1,300Mbps/5GHz, 450Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

• USB/Thunderbolt Options: MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

• Operating System: Genuine Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]

• Windows Recovery Media: Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive

• Office Software: FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System RequiredWill d. ownload Office form Microsoft and by a Product key for £30)

• Anti-Virus: BullGuard™ Internet Security - 3 User, 1 Year

• Browser: Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)

• Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Yr Collect & Return, 3 Yr Parts, 3 Year labour)

• Cable Management: PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management

• Keyboard & Mouse: PCS S300 USB MEDIA KEYBOARD

• Delivery: TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI, PRE-NOON

• Build Time: Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days

julienruc · Nov 17, 2018

Have you had a look at team Red for the CPU?

It's arguable whether which programs work better on which CPU as some of the ones you use are more efficient with Intel but others better with AMD.
However, with AMD, you will get MUCH lower rendering time with the 32 Cores and 64 Threads. Turbo boost will go up to 4.2Ghz as well so the single core speed will hold up. It's also much less expensive so you can invest in your green screen setup.

As for the GPU. Definitely the P4000, you're handling too much 3D here for a P2000 I'd reckon. It's usually the budget option for Solidworks.

spikeysonic · Nov 17, 2018

julienruc :

i have been repeatidly told whilst amd thread ripper processors are cheaper and more powerful the CAD, but I have been told that the kinds of software im looking ie ie CAD, rendering, Editing Animation and character modelling are more optimised for intel. Know anythign about that in more detail?

I could not afford the 32 core processors as out of my budget of £3000, could max out about 14-16

I would prefer the PNY 4000 but to get it now I need to lower the processor to the I7 -9800x as with the I9-9900x would be several £100 over budget.

So would plan to upgrade to one later

julienruc · Nov 18, 2018

As you've said, currently CAD and most (but not all) of your programs will runs better on Intel, they aren't scaling fully across all the 32 cores AMD is offering. Plus, its slower per core performance due to slightly slower IPC and lower clockspeed hurts performance for those applications. However, the Ryzen are very close to Intel's per core performance, so going with AMD isn't necessarily a bad move if you're hoping for multicore scaling to improve in the long term. If you want the best performance for your applications right now, then go with Intel. But as technology advances, developpers are trying to adapt applications to better use multi-threading as newer CPUs keep having more and more cores. So I personally think AMD's more future-proof.

This is why I was suggesting it in your situation. The slight decrease in performance is justified by the huge decrease in price and huge decrease in rendering time, which translates into a new green screen setup.

Something to think about.

spikeysonic · Nov 18, 2018

julienruc :

As you've said, currently CAD and most (but not all) of your programs will runs better on Intel, they aren't scaling fully across all the 32 cores AMD is offering. Plus, its slower per core performance due to slightly slower IPC and lower clockspeed hurts performance for those applications. However, the Ryzen are very close to Intel's per core performance, so going with AMD isn't necessarily a bad move if you're hoping for multicore scaling to improve in the long term. If you want the best performance for your applications right now, then go with Intel. But as technology advances, developpers are trying to adapt applications to better use multi-threading as newer CPUs keep having more and more cores. So I personally think AMD's more future-proof.

This is why I was suggesting it in your situation. The slight decrease in performance is justified by the huge decrease in price and huge decrease in rendering time, which translates into a new green screen setup.

Something to think about.

spikeysonic · Nov 18, 2018

Oh have been looking at the and thread rippers. Especially as the lower cost of the processir meand i coukd afford a quadro 4000 and possible 32 gb ram in the budget and 16 cires.

julienruc · Nov 19, 2018

Yeah, something to think about. AMD is strong alternative these days.

spikeysonic · Nov 19, 2018

Def one to think about, the problem is which one to def get, I dont just get a processor with more cores and cache and pci lanes, I get the upgrade to the Quadro 4000 and double the ram but is the I9 still better option...?

Wpuld all the software work and would the additional ram and graphic cards and cores make up for any AMD difficiencies or would some of the software (CAD, editign, Rendering have problems and issues not just speed?

julienruc · Nov 19, 2018

spikeysonic :

If you'd like more technical information, you can find more information here:
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3310-adobe-premiere-benchmarks-rendering-8700k-gpu-vs-ryzen

Gamer Nexus is quite reputable when it comes to this stuff.

As you can see most of the Intel does come out on top, but not by very much. Some rendering times are even better on the Intel as many programs don't utilize multi-threading properly as of yet. However 3D programs do this very well to my knowledge.

For the price difference, you're sacrificing a very small percentage of performance in order to upgrade other parts in your system. Such as the P4000, which is quite important with it's precision driver. I think what you need to figure out at this point is how much is accuracy important in your work, because if need architect precision: I would recommend prioritizing the P4000.

Although I believe you have a good idea of things now, so I'm confident you can take the decision of AMD vs Intel your own at this point. Just to reassure you though, they're both excellent systems that provide superior performance. One of the best in fact. I don't think there is a wrong decision to make here.

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