What b450 should I get ?

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Dear friends,

I`m looking for a new mobo, what of the options below is good ?

1 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H
2 - Asus TUF B450M-Plus Gaming
3 - Asrock AM4 B450M-HDV (Cheaper one)

Also, I`m buying the new system as below, are them all compatible (the water cooling with the cabinet and so on ?)

My system specs:
CPU: Ryzen 7 1800x
CPU Cooler: WaterCooler Cooler Master Masterliquid Lite 240 MLW-D24M-A20PW-R1
GPU: Rx 580 8 gb sapphire
Ram: Patriot or corsair 2x8 gb 3000 mhz
SSD: Crucial mx500 500gb
HDD: 1 TB
PSU: Cx 550w (gray version)
Cabinet: Bluecase bg-015

Wait for your help for choosing the mobo, also if you can tell me if the cooler will fit the bluecase bg-015, I`d be really happy!

Thanks!
 
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the rear IO shield is the plastic cover that says ASUS TUF. it covers the rear connectors from Electro static discharge and dust contamination. just a cover to keep crap away from the ports.
the Gigabyte I can see in the image it has 4 SATA 3 ports, so you can install 4 drives. M.2 will disable one, so 4 drive limit.
the ASUS has the same 4 and 2 more. for a total of 6 drives that can be installed including the m.2.
4 across the bottom, and 2 more mounted horizontally near the bottom of the RAM next to the screw hole.

the I/O cover is a niciety, not really a feature, but having the ability to add more storage without an additional card is a plus worth the money in my book
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the asrock is a budget board with questionable VRM.
the gigabyte is a good board but the ASUS has more SATA ports that I can see, and the rear IO shield is a plus too. the PCIe slot is re-enforced too.

if 'twere me the asus it be
 
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Noted my friend, as I`m going to the store to buy it, I`ll get either the gigabyte or the asus mobo (will prioritaze the asus, but depends on which one will be available)

Just to understand these technical terms, what do you mean with more SATA ports that I can see, and the rear IO shield is a plus too. Can you let me know about this rear IO and sata ports ?
 
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the rear IO shield is the plastic cover that says ASUS TUF. it covers the rear connectors from Electro static discharge and dust contamination. just a cover to keep crap away from the ports.
the Gigabyte I can see in the image it has 4 SATA 3 ports, so you can install 4 drives. M.2 will disable one, so 4 drive limit.
the ASUS has the same 4 and 2 more. for a total of 6 drives that can be installed including the m.2.
4 across the bottom, and 2 more mounted horizontally near the bottom of the RAM next to the screw hole.

the I/O cover is a niciety, not really a feature, but having the ability to add more storage without an additional card is a plus worth the money in my book
 
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Really my bro ?

You do think that the water cooler will not fit into the case ?

Also in time, are the ones below good when compared to the b450 ? I`m asking because I`ll go to Paraguai to buy the mobo and it all depends on which one will be available when i reach there, please check other options:
1 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H
2 - Asus TUF B450M-Plus Gaming
3 - Asrock AM4 B450M-HDV (Cheaper one)
4 - Asus Tuf B350M-Plus Gaming AM4
5 - Gigabyte AB350-Gaming
6 - Asus Prime B350M-e
7 - Asus Prime B350M-K

As said, I would like to have at least three options of good mobos for my specs, for now I have two as below:
1 - Gigabyte B450M-DS3H
2 - Asus TUF B450M-Plus Gaming

Thanks in advance!
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiD7PJIixfY
go to 45 secoinds and pause the screen you can see the needed 27MM clearance is not available between the motherboard and the fans.
the fans are 25mm the rad is 27 mm meaning you need 52mm of clearance above the motherboard to the top of the case. IDK if this h100i will work in this case.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Liquid-Cooling/Dual-Radiator-Liquid-Coolers/Hydro-Series%E2%84%A2-H100i-Extreme-Performance-CPU-Cooler/p/CW-9060009-WW

there is not even clearance for half height fan much less a radiator.
 
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Hey bro,

I understand what you mean but I made the measurements today in my case and it actually can fit 32 cms of lenght, which means would have enough space since the radiator has 27 cms of lenght, about the height since the mobo looks big would be enough right ?
 
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being cautious, I still say no. but I'm not there with a ruler. the radiator and fans will need 52mm total space.
it does not look like enough to me, but if you measure and you have the clearance for the 52mm cooler..
 
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I was talking about the top mount because the front mount is a bit of a baffle, the design makes the front placement sub optimal. air had to be drawn past masses of plastic and metal before intake or exhaust. more air can flow from the top, heat rises and that is where the filter is.

if you mount on the front of the case I suggest making the front of the case the exhaust. otherwise you are placing a heater in the front of the PC and all the parts will cook in the hot air the radiator introduces.
 
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So how should I place it ? Can I place the water cooler in the front of the case and use an exhaustor in the back part of the case, in order to have good air flow in the computer and use the water cooler anyway ?

About the mobos, any other one you suggest me to pick from that list ?
 
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sticking with my first choice. the 350 boards are older, buy modern. asus tuf.

if you place it in the front as you propose, I would remove the front plastic panel from the case and cut out the metal grill with a dremel tool. I would also cut away the front of the case and mount a mesh filter so that there is nothing between the radiator and the newly installed filter. have the fans exhaust the front of the case with as little obstruction as possible, with two downward blowing fans mounted on the top panel.

you could also try to mount the rad on the top of the case, you would need to figure out the tubing needs but outside of the case the radiator will be cooler than if it were in the oven so to speak., the hot air exhausted would be blown clear of the case and with no obstruction of airflow.

 
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Hey bro,

As you helped me a lot, I'm gonna make a last question (hope so), can you please let me know which option of water cooler below is better ?

1 - Master cooler liquid lite 240
2 - Riotoro Liquid TR-240 Bifrost
3 - Hydro Corsair H100X 240MM CW-9060040-WW

Any advice ? For the first option I'll pay here in Brazil smth about BRL 370,00, for the 2nd option I'll pay in Paraguai BRL 340,00 and for the 3rd option I'll pay in Paraguai BRL 377,00, which means their price are really similar so that I could choose between those 3.

 
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