[SOLVED] Water Cooling Loop

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RyuKyu567

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Hey all,

I have had about a few days to work on the new custom loop and from what I have seen so far Ive got a few concerns. The photo attached is the current configuration: http://i63.tinypic.com/2rz8h0g.jpg

Current Hardware:
Gigabyte X399 Designare
AMD Threadripper 1950x
Corsair Vengeance Pro (32gb)
Dual GTX 980's
Corsair RM1000 PSU
2 XSPC 360 Rads
2 XSPC GTX 980 blocks
XSPC D5 Photon res/pump combo
XSPC Raystorm Neo CPU block
Be Quiet 801 Case

So the biggest concern is our good old friend Temperature. Inside the case it gets to about 32c under load. CPU and GPU temps according to the corsair software are pretty solid at about 66c. I don't have my flow and temp meter in just yet so I can't give you an accurate temp on the coolant. With all of that said those temps seem pretty high with this configuration. Unfortunately with the design of the case there isn't really any other way to setup a push/pull on the rads, nor is there a way to get the access heat out of the inside of the case without taking the side panel off. So I really have 2 questions:

1: Should there be any concern with the temperatures listed?

2: Aside from a new case to open up options for airflow, is there another method of configuring this setup that I may have missed?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Lutfij
Amen! ;)

I didn't follow much about the XSPC block for the TR4 socket but I did know that they carried over their trademark design feats with the detachable face/mounting plate.

I also forgot to ask, are those the EX rads? If so then you're looking at the right temps with those fans. IMHO, the Riing fans aren't meant for static pressure and the rads aren't flush mounted with the 140mm fans either. If you got pressure optimized fans for the rads, you'd see some better temps, albeit with some higher noise levels.
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Lutfij

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I can't tell much from this picture you linked
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but is the inlet to the waterblock for the CPU, to the right or to the left of that picture?

With the Label for the block underneath the ports, the inlet should be on the right.
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On another note, what sort of fans are you working with? You may want to use HWMonitor to see what sort of temps you're getting and co-relate them to BIOS readings as well as Corsair's app. You also forgot to mention the voltages and clock speeds for your TR4 platform.
 
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So I have the CPU water block mounted upside down in order to accommodate the loop. So the inlet is on the left. Voltages and clock speeds have not been touched so standard clock speeds. Fans are Thermaltake Riing12's on the upper rad and Be Quiet 140's on the front rad. With that said I did discover that the way the case is designed the top cover is what my issue is. For whatever reason there are channels that run along either side of the case side panels which heat is "suppose" go through. An inch above the rad glued to the top cover is a sound dampening mat a long with a lack of ventilation. I can understand why Be Quiet did this but for this configuration hinders the system.

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I think I may have a solution to this issue, but I am communicating with the case designers from Be Quiet. I am awaiting for their reply.
 
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The Raystorm Neo has a removable mounting bracket which can be used in different orientations. Im not sure if all TR4 blocks do this but I would imagine most would due to the fact that the mounting studs are fixed. What is funny is that there isn't any pictures anywhere showing the at the bracket can be separated from the block. Not even the manual has one, otherwise I would post an example. :/
 
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Interesting. In the few blocks I've used personally, they didn't seem to have this ability - at least without completely disassembling the block and hoping it fits together in reverse. However, these have been EK and Swiftech blocks and their mounting brackets are milled directly into the block itself, for the most part.

But as long as that works, that's beneficial for your needs, so that's pretty awesome. Thanks for the clarification, it certainly helps. Are you to the point you're certain the issue is airflow at the top of the case?
 
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Yep not a problem :) I thought it was interesting that the bracket for the block came off when I took it out of the box. On terms of the case I am about 99.9% sure that the case was just getting suffocated. I have the top removed right now and a quick grip holding the 2 sides on at the moment. I have run numerous tests and games so far with the temps nice and cool. According to the corsair link the CPU runs about 44c under full load while the GPU's are about 42c. With that top on they would be in access of 65c. Also when the top was on for a long duration of time I cracked open the side panel and put a thermometer to check the air and it was in access of 48c blowing out of the case with the ambient temp inside the case around 47c. There was just nowhere for the air to go, so it just lingered and caused temps to raise.
 
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Amen! ;)

I didn't follow much about the XSPC block for the TR4 socket but I did know that they carried over their trademark design feats with the detachable face/mounting plate.

I also forgot to ask, are those the EX rads? If so then you're looking at the right temps with those fans. IMHO, the Riing fans aren't meant for static pressure and the rads aren't flush mounted with the 140mm fans either. If you got pressure optimized fans for the rads, you'd see some better temps, albeit with some higher noise levels.
 
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That is very true, right now I am happier with the temps since I took the top cover off of the case, and yes those are EX360 rads. Although what is frustrating is the reply I got from Be Quiet. All they said is:

"Thank you for your patience, It seems our case team is working on trying to find better way help cool the case down. Please note this case was set for "Silent;" therefore, during the construction of this case our team was looking into how to keep the case quiet. Please note our team is looking into make mock up of parts to improve cooling, but this testing will take time to complete. Unfortunately for right now an alternative is to remove the front panel to allow additional air flow to help keep the system cooler for now. Please check back with us in the future for new cooling solution / update. "

I can understand that they may have to take a closer look at how the case is designed and it will take some time and that it was set for "Silent" but in a way they compromise the efficiency with silence. To be honest, even with the top off exposing everything its still quieter than my last build and the sound doesn't change much even with the cover on! I hope they look into this issue because Be Quiet cases are awesome, but with a major major hot spot to be resolved. What I did laugh at was their solution of "take off the front cover".... really? Adding more air in the front wont solve the standing hot air in the top dude...

 
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