1080 or 4k gaming for Seige, Ark, F1

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spectre534111

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Hi I am looking to buy a gaming pc for my son. He mainly plays Seige, Ark, F1 in 1080 although may want 4k if the level of experience justifies it.
System to be current for 3 years
4k gaming nice to have
What system would you recommend for him and which one of the following is good value for money and meets his needs

1 i5 7400, GTX 1070 8mb, 16gb ram, 2TB £650
2. i5 8400 GTX 1070ti, 16gb ram, 2TB. 120ssd
3. i7 7700k GTX 1080, 512 SSD, 16gb ram, 2TB. This is an MSI compact PC £950
Linked below
https://icecat.biz/et/p/msi/9s6-b90911-005/pc-stazioni-di-lavoro-4719072497255-X3+VR7RE-005DE-35614121.html#

I don't know much about gaming pcs ...only what I have read over the last few days.

Thanks for your help
 
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First of all you're a great and rich dad, secondly, depends if he likes fast paced gameplay or super cool looking places.

In my experience ARK is horrible at 4K the water looks horrible now and even with a config better than what you selected, I can't run at maximum 60 fps, I get like 20.

I'd recommend you get him a good i7 with a K at the end, so that he can even overclock it, the 7700k sounds good, tho you may want some custom cooler on it too or he can get that later. And unless he really wants to run 4K on everything but ARK since that game is crazy, a 1070 is enough to run mostly everything, even Witcher 3 at 60 frames (which is a decent quality fluid game experience and depends on your monitor, if you get him a higher frequency monitor he could get more on other games). A SSD would be great to make his PC boot up fast and for 1 favorite game at least. Beyond that I'd say a EVGA PSU 650W or more, try to get a WD hard drive not seagate, or it might die on you in 3 years or less (had 2 that died, WD still running after 7 years now). The problem is you want a pre-built solution, but if you can't find what I recommend, some websites or companies, might assemble the PC for you, that's what I did on my first PC when I was a noob and didn't wanna spend time assembling it, you can ask if they do that and request it (for me it was free).

Otherwise just find one with 7700k 6700k and a 1070 or 1070ti. He can upgrade later on. Or you may both learn together and upgrade, my dad still enjoys watching me add new stuff to my PC.

PS. for 4K gaming you may need to look into some custom cooler 1080ti or maybe 2080. Not really worth it unless he really likes cool graphics and you have a 30 inch monitor.
 
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Thanks Cioby for the kind words and the recommendations.
So the upshot is you need to have a 1080ti for a reliable 4k experience.
1070ti/1080 will give an ok 4k experience on some game.
His set up will be i7 7700k and gtx 1080,
What size and resolution of monitor s I go for.....
27" 4k TN or IPS or 2560/1440
24" HD IPS
32" 4K IPS or VA

Thanks
 
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If you can run 144 or even 100 at 2K, you can also run 60 fps 4K

And unless he wants super fast paced games, like shooters or even MOBA games, 60 is enough and he can unlock the Vsync even if he has a 60 fps monitor, but he'll have image cuts.

Get a TN panel if he has a good position of his PC and no light, natural or not, blows onto his monitor. If he has sunlight or uses his room light often, get a ISP tho the response time for a ISP is worse, there are better ISP out there now. I recommend a 27-28 inch 1440p monitor maybe, since running 1440p on 4K makes it looks like shit (From experience, depends on the game) and he won't be able to run ARK or Witcher 3 for example, at 4K 60 fps. So go for 1440p and 120-144 Hz monitor

I wanna recommend a gsync monitor but they are expensive and mine is kinda shitty at 4K, maybe it's just me. It should make playing at 144 Hz with below 144fps, more clean.
 
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I was thinking to future proof the purchase as monitors last a few years. I thought if I got a 27 or 32 inch 4k IPS or 32" 4K that even though 1080 card cannot quite do 4k at high enough FPS the monitor could still run images at a resolution greater than 4k but more than 1080? Will a 4k monitor run sub 4K images smoothly ?
 
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