Should I wait for X570 mobos or build with a high end X470 mobo

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I'm in a dire need of a system and waited until AMD's keynote in anticipation of Ryzen 3000 series CPUs. However, we all know that it wont happen until probably the end of Q2 and I cannot wait until then to build a system. Fortunately since AM4 socket is going to be supported until 2020, I think I can upgrade to Ryzen 3000 when they launch. Will I be missing out if I don't get the X570 chipset motherboards or should I wait until then. Thanks!
 
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AMD promised full compliance with existing chipsets. Same thing was with 2nd gen but MB manufacturers were not really ready even for 1st gen Ryzen, a lot of fumbling was going on in the beginning. It's not directly because of 4xx chipset but many things were improved in 2nd gen MBs.
I don't expect that much of a change/improvement with new chipset but BIOS must improve to accommodate new CPU functions. There's not enough data about 3rd gen Ryzen but more than just frequency has to be improved, IMC should be the first on that list, at same frequency and settings, Intel CPUs have still much better performance.
I'm waiting with this MB with confidence that things will improve in all fields with Ryzen 3xxxx and my goal will be 3700x...
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We are not going to see any 3000-series CPUs before 'mid-2019', if I am interpreting assorted statements from Dr. Su correctly....so I'd not expect new X570 boards before then, either....

So, unless you can wait 5 months....

Choose now....

Edit: X570 seems as though it will bring PCI-e 4.0 with it, but, as even current 2080Ti models are not limited by PCI-e 3.0 x16 bandwidth, I'd not be expecting much of a boost on that basis, and, many are speculating some X470 boards might support PCI-e 4.0 to the first GPU slot (after a possible BIOS update) at least, if these specs are important to you....

 
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I'm kinda torn apart between x570 or riding the blue wave with a 9900K. I'm not buying actual parts until mid/end of February so lets see if AMD gives us updates with their Vega 7 launch.
 
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That is a great point. However, since they're probably releasing their Ryzen 3000 series during mid year, is it really possible/feasible that they will change the socket given that AM4 is doing wonders for them? Plus old loyalists who have 1st gen Ryzen and will be planning to upgrade those in 2020 will be screwed over by this move. I'm kinda skeptical about it but it is a big possibility. Hence, me considering a 9900K build which should last me a long long time.
 
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AMD promised full compliance with existing chipsets. Same thing was with 2nd gen but MB manufacturers were not really ready even for 1st gen Ryzen, a lot of fumbling was going on in the beginning. It's not directly because of 4xx chipset but many things were improved in 2nd gen MBs.
I don't expect that much of a change/improvement with new chipset but BIOS must improve to accommodate new CPU functions. There's not enough data about 3rd gen Ryzen but more than just frequency has to be improved, IMC should be the first on that list, at same frequency and settings, Intel CPUs have still much better performance.
I'm waiting with this MB with confidence that things will improve in all fields with Ryzen 3xxxx and my goal will be 3700x.
With this setup, my 2700x is running comfortably at 4.3GHz at 1.4v and RAM at 3600MHz Cl16. B450 MBs have inherently inferior power delivery and 3rd gen Ryzen will certainly need more power so a good MB with x470 chipset should be quite enough. This Asus MB still has at least 50 - 100 watts to spare even at highest load.
 
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Thanks for your in depth explanation of the situation. I just had one more. What do you think about the compatibility of high end 16C/32T 3xxx processors with the existing mobos? I think I read somewhere on the specs on Asus Rog Strix X470-F that it supports only upto 8C/16T processors. It's not really an issue to settle with a 8C/16T processor but do you think the high end chips will be compatible with the existing platform (plug and play?)??
 
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That's probably because there were no processors with more than 8/16 at that time. Number of cores shouldn't make any difference if MB can give them enough power. You wouldn't want an 2700x on an a320 MB and it's 65W power, would you ? ASUS Prime A320M-K for instance, has official support for it and would work but couldn't get much out of it.
With potentially less power (per core), any MB with decent VRM should be able to work with more cores.
 
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