Sony or others????

I am looking for a 21" monitor. Obviously Sony is the most expensive one. If I don't care the price, just fine dot pitch, is there any other can beat Sony??? Could someone who has F500R 21" FD Trinitron tell me how it is please? BTW what is Aperture Grille pitch? Is it a real pitch or somewhat fancy name??? Thanks in advance!!

For an explaination of aperture pitch and dot pitch look at the following site.

http://www.csf.org.uk

see "Dot Pitch explained"

There are many monitors with the same 0.22mm horizontal dot pitch as the Sony F500. Check out the HItachi or Cornerstone models

Good Luck



Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

I never trust general statements like brand ABD is better than brand XYZ. What evidence do you have to back up your statements? Have you compared these monitors side by side? Please explain.

Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

What about Mitsubihsi DiamondPro 2045U 22" NF 0.24 ? The specs looks prety good, and it is cheaper.

So that´s whay you are recomending the Cornerstone (Which i never heard about! And i thought i knew all the brands!)

Home turf, uhm?

Now , for the facts!
p1600 vs F500R!
117 Khz v 121 Khz! Equivalent? Not damn liquely!
Viewable are1600:400 mm x 300 mm
F500R:404 mm x 302 mm ---> Sony´s Bigger!
Refresh Rate: p1600 :1600*1200 --> 94 Hz
1280*1024 --> 109 Hz
1024*768 ---> 143 Hz
Sony : 1600*1200 --> 98 Hz
1280*1024 --> 115 Hz
1024*768 ---> 153 Hz
I think the numbers speak for themselves on this one!
CRT Type: P1600:Shadow Mask --> Best for text aplications!
Sony:Flat Aperture Grill --> Best for Graphics and has flat CRT that may reduce glare in certain lighting conditions!
Tell me who´s going to use a 21" monitor to text based aplications? What a waste of money!

The only point you could make a stand is the price!
But, think for a moment! Anyone who´s buying a 21 " monitor
is not likely to have money problems!
So your argument falls from the base!

And you say its your job to compare monitors?
It seems you are not doing a good job!

P.S: Think again before pissing a possible costumer!


Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

I do not try to hide who I work for look at my profile. My comparison of the f500R and the p1600 is based upon the horizontal scan frequency. And yes in my opinion they are equivalent. Both are capable of 1600 x 1200 at 85Hz the current industry standard. Yes theoretically the F500R could run slightly higher resolution and refresh rates, however your video card must support these.

You forgot to mention a few other facts.

P1600 5 year standard warranty, Sony 3 Years.
P1600 consumes 130-Watts Sony 145 Watts, here in California this is becoming a big issue
P1600 is slightly shorter, comes with right angle video and power cords so that you can push the monitor up against a wall saving desk space. Also the p1600 is 1% shorter in depth.
P1600 is 14.1% lighter

Price: P1600 $839 Sony is greater than $1,000

If you still want to compare specs compare the p1700 to the F500R

Who uses 21" monitors for text based applications, the over 500,000 21" monitors we have shipped over the last 16 years.

Sorry to piss you off, however general statements like brand "ABC" is better than brand "XYZ" are just not true. I'm not saying Cornerstone monitors are better than other brands or visa versa, even the best monitors sometimes do not perform as advertised.


Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

Hi guys,

Thanks very much for your very informative replies. You guys are experts. Are you also good at Flat Pannels? I heard they are not good for games, but I'd like hear it from guys like you if this is not too trouble. Thanks in advance!!

Can´t help you with LCD monitors!

One thing is clear , the LCD´s don´t spoil your eyes as much as a CRT!
For that reason alone i would recomend one!




Better burn in Hell with some company than freeze in Heaven all alone

Does the damper wires bother you?

- I don't write Tom's Hardware Guide, I just preach it"

Not much to say, but I've seen LCDs against CRTs and the CRT just pisses on them. They are overpriced and underspecified. They do look nice and crisp, but this is matched and surpassed by many quality CRTs. Making their only real advantage being flat.

But I'm no expert so go see for yourself. LCDs look cool, but they just can't compare to a decent CRTs. Not as far as I have seen anyway.

And if nothing else you can get a bloody big screen on a CRT for what it would cost to put even a crappy 15" Budget LCD on your desk.

One question, when you say apperture grid is bettre for graphics, I always see graphics like autocad, deisgn etc... but does it means GAMES ? What I wanna know, is shadow mask or apperture grid better for games ?

thanks

Simon Ethier
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