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Doc_Holliday   02-04-2003 at 12:34:08 AM

I've managed to sell off my dell so being restrained by parts from it is not longer an issue. So.....I'd like to build the most badass system I can with $800.

1. I already have a Geforce 4 TI4400 so I won't need another video card.

2.I don't need more than a 40gig hard drive but I want it to be fast.

Suggest away!

And thanks to everyone who has been kind enough to help me out these past few days. I appreciate it.

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leeanator   02-04-2003 at 02:44:57 AM
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Well i hope that that is american funds.

Athlon 2100+
Gigabyte GA-7VAX mainboard
256MB PC2100 or 2700 DDR RAM

You still need a case and p/s
Try not to go cheap on the power supply Enermax products are worth the extra money and for case well I would look around and spend any money left over from the mainboard, cpu and ram.

Also you may want to consider if you need to buy a keyboard, mouse, monitor?

Most mainboards come with intergrated sound so it saves money and isn't bad quality either.

PCMCIA Really stands for (People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms) :) :)

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jihiggs   02-04-2003 at 03:17:13 AM
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were you playing on the wpd server today?

my computer is so fast, it completes an endless loop in less than 4 seconds!

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Spitfire_x86   02-04-2003 at 04:01:38 AM
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CPU: Athlon XP 2100+ or faster
Mobo: ASUS A7N8X Deluxe/Leadtek K7NCR18D/MSI K7N2-L
RAM: 2 x 256 MB Corsair XMS PC3200 CL2.0 DDR or Kingston PC2700 CL2.5 DDR
HDD: Maxtor D740X 40 GB (7200 rpm, 2 MB Buffer)

Stay away from KT400 mobos. nForce2 is a better chipset.

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

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Crashman   02-04-2003 at 08:11:49 AM
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I'd go with Spitfire's board recommendation but add that you could easily afford a faster CPU than the one he recommended.

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jlanka   02-04-2003 at 02:14:38 PM
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I'd like to toss my hard drive recommandation in for the Western Digital WD800JB (8MB cache) on sale for $109 free shipping at newegg. You can't beat that deal. I agree with the A7N8X deluxe and the Corsair PC3200 twin sticks

<i>It's always the one thing you never suspected.</i>

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Civilized   02-04-2003 at 03:37:16 PM
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good rec's
I will add some input...
I would def go for a mobo with the nforce2 chipset like these guys have suggested..but I do opt for the Epox 8RDA+ because of its overclocking potential..
The ram suggested is good, I would go with the western digital 8mb cache harddrive as suggested by the previous poster

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Doc_Holliday   02-04-2003 at 09:06:08 PM
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I was looking into some Athlon processors and I realized that I know NOTHING about them. I don't even know what the model numbers mean. But I'm right in assuming 2100 means 2.1 ghz correct?

And the board recommended (Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail) says:
"CPU Supported: Socket A AMD Athlon/XP/Duron (support AMD XP2800)"

Does this mean that it supports Athlon processors up to 2.8ghz?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Doc_Holliday on 02/04/03 03:30 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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DaveP   02-04-2003 at 09:33:07 PM
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The 2100 is 1.73gh.

:smile: :smile:

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Doc_Holliday   02-04-2003 at 09:34:51 PM
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http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainb [...] asus_a7n8x

In this pic it looks like 2 blue Dimms and 1 Black dim. What's the difference?

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Doc_Holliday   02-04-2003 at 10:12:05 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 20-141-302

Is this the correct ram?
The Other brand mentioned was quite a bit more expensive so do you think it's worth it?

Also, Is there any special brand of PSU I should buy for the Athlon as I've noticed some are "Athlon approved" Will 300 watts be enough or will I need 350?

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Doc_Holliday   02-04-2003 at 10:40:52 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 11-129-126

I think I'm going to go with this board and throw in two fans. Will that power supply work well?

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Crashman   02-04-2003 at 11:40:39 PM
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They are color coded so you'll be able to tell easier what pair of slots to use for dual channel capability.

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Spitfire_x86   02-05-2003 at 02:19:49 AM
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AXP 2100+ is as fast as P4 2.2 GHz (w/PC800 RDRAM).

AMD PR ratings are based on P4 w/ RDRAM performance. If you pair P4 with DDR, then P4 performs bad enough to beat an AXP of equilvent PR Rating. See Tom's VGA Chart: Part 1 for details. There an AXP 2700+ beats a P4 3.06 GHz w/DDR333 in all benchmarks

Upgradability is same with P4 and AXP's. ASUS A7N8X will be usable with all future Athlons faster than 2800+. 3000+ is coming very soon, and faster versions may follow. With P4, upgradability is limited to 3.4 GHz with curent mobos.

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

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Doc_Holliday   02-05-2003 at 02:35:57 AM
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Could I put a 2.0 ghz processor on it if I wanted? (just curious)

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Spitfire_x86   02-05-2003 at 04:09:33 AM
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AXP 2400+ is clocked at 2.0 GHz, and of course you can use it with ASUS A7N8X

<b> "You can put lipstick on a pig, but hey, it's still a pig!" - RobD </b>

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NE_Corridor   02-05-2003 at 06:45:03 PM
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The numbers in AMD's CPU line up represents the relative performance when compared to Intel chips. If an Intel chip runs at 2.2 ghz, it's actually running at the clock speed. AMD's 2100+, as someone pointed out, runs at a lower clock speed, but offers performance similar to a 2.1 ghz Intel cpu.

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NE_Corridor   02-05-2003 at 06:45:03 PM
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Also, you should realize that AMD processors draw more power, thus creating more heat, than similar P4s. So don't skimp on the heatsink/fan unit.

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